My best friends oldest daughter which is 16 commited suicide last monday. I went to them on tuesday to do what I could, (Jesus hand extended). a topic of conversation was the location of her spirit for eternity. They all believe that she is in heaven with Jesus but I don't. I didn't have the heart to tell them at that time that she wasn't. They don't know if she had ever asked Jesus to come into her heart or not. My best friend nor his wife are Christians so they don't know. They are grasping on to a false hope that she is in heaven with Jesus and they will see her again some day. Because of the broken heartedness and emotions, I didn't feel that was the time to tell them their daughter was burning in hell and if they didn't ask Jesus for forgiveness and receive Him as their personal Lord and savior they would burn in hell too. At the funeral the pastor got up their and gave this sermon on how NOTHING can seperate us from the love of Jesus. He was giving everybody in there a false (lie) hope that you can know Jesus is real and that concretes your ticket to heaven to spend eternity with Jesus. He made it sound like suicide can not seperate us from the love of Jesus and its okay if we murder ourself because we will spend eternity with Jesus. If this were so why don't we all receive Jesus as our Lord and Savior and blow our brains out to end the hell on earth and go on to live with Jesus? It really ticked me off to hear the pastor tell the some 500 people at the funeral that its okay that she shot herself in the head because she went to see Jesus. I have to write my buddy a letter and tell him the truth. It is eating away at me from the inside.
Later and God Bless
It really ticked me off to hear the pastor tell the some 500 people at the funeral that its okay that she shot herself in the head because she went to see Jesus. I have to write my buddy a letter and tell him the truth. It is eating away at me from the inside.
Later and God Bless
I can't believe that a genuine human being would do what you are proposing. That would be a truly evil actworthy of Satan himself.
For the sake of yourfamily and those around you, you shouldseek counseling IMMEDIATELY.
I can't believe that a genuine human being would do what you are proposing. That would be a truly evil actworthy of Satan himself.
For the sake of yourfamily and those around you, you shouldseek counseling IMMEDIATELY.
It says what it means and means what it says!
John 3:16-18
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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My best friends oldest daughter which is 16 commited suicide last monday.That is terrible.I went to them on tuesday to do what I could, (Jesus hand extended).very nice.. a topic of conversation was the location of her spirit for eternity. They all believe that she is in heaven with Jesus but I don't. No one really knows brother..let God be the judge. I didn't have the heart to tell them at that time that she wasn't. They don't know if she had ever asked Jesus to come into her heart or not. My best friend nor his wife are Christians so they don't know. They are grasping on to a false hope that she is in heaven with Jesus and they will see her again some day. Because of the broken heartedness and emotions, I didn't feel that was the time to tell them their daughter was burning in hell { Jesus did not instruct us to judge who will be in Heaven or Hell..His command was to love them..which you did .You visited them..I would leave the judging to the true and only righteous judge..God Almighty.} c7
So its okay for me to allow my bud to believe a lie? that its okay to live like hell in total unbelief of a God that will Judge? Should I not tell them that there is a heaven and a hell and that the wages of sin is death. unbelief is a sin and murder is a sin. I must witness and tell my buddy this.
You should let your buddy and his family grieve the loss of their daughter and not say anything related to her being in hell, etc....At least that is what a friend and someone with compassion would do, especially with it still being so recent.
You should let your buddy and his family grieve the loss of their daughter and not say anything related to her being in hell, etc....At least that is what a friend and someone with compassion would do, especially with it still being so recent.
So if the Lord returns today and I haven't done all that I could to tell them about the Love of Jesus and what a true relationship with him is, haven't I failed at our calling? There is no time like the present, because we are not guaranteed our next breath.
Compassion.... should I have compassion for their soul or their feelings? I feel that now is the best time to share the love of Jesus with them. They could use his strength now more than ever.
Also, the trueth may hurt. Its better to know the trueth and spend eternity in heaven than to believe a lie and spend eternity in hell.
So are you thinking that suicide is not a sin and its okay?
So its okay for me to allow my bud to believe a lie? that its okay to live like hell in total unbelief of a God that will Judge? Should I not tell them that there is a heaven and a hell and that the wages of sin is death. unbelief is a sin and murder is a sin. I must witness and tell my buddy this.
There is no way that you or I could know her condition. She may have accepted Christ at some point....and suicide is not the unpardonable sin. You need to be sensitive to these parents at this time, and be there for them, and sometimes not saying anything is the most comforting thing you can do. Later, at the appropriate time, with much prayer and sensitivity to theSpirit, you will be provided with an oppurtunity to speak to them about their need, but,you should allow them to gradually come to the realization of the state of their daughter,and to allow them some semblance of hope at this time, seeing as that possibility does exist. Your sensitivity or insensitivity at this time could be the catalyst that drives them to or from Christ. Be patient. I have experienced this twice myself, and the door will open for you, but let God do the opening, and let Him guide you with His compassion.
I am sorry that you are having to go through this, and that your friends have suffered such a tragedy.
Asa for the pastor,if he gave a false hope , then he will have to answer for it. Be careful though so as to not do as in the parable of the sower, attempt to do the separating yourself which can cause some damage to the wheat as well as the tares.
You should let your buddy and his family grieve the loss of their daughter and not say anything related to her being in hell, etc....At least that is what a friend and someone with compassion would do, especially with it still being so recent.
Did I not show compassion by taking leave to go to him, spending time with him, crying with him, and loving him? I was very close to her too and she was very dear to my heart. This is such a gut check for me! Life is on earth is for a brief time, eternity is for ever.
You should let your buddy and his family grieve the loss of their daughter and not say anything related to her being in hell, etc....At least that is what a friend and someone with compassion would do, especially with it still being so recent.
So if the Lord returns today and I haven't done all that I could to tell them about the Love of Jesus and what a true relationship with him is, haven't I failed at our calling? There is no time like the present, because we are not guaranteed our next breath.
Compassion.... should I have compassion for their soul or their feelings? I feel that now is the best time to share the love of Jesus with them. They could use his strength now more than ever.
Also, the trueth may hurt. Its better to know the trueth and spend eternity in heaven than to believe a lie and spend eternity in hell.
So are you thinking that suicide is not a sin and its okay?
I am not trying to say that you are not a good friend, that you do not care about your buddy, that you are not supportive of your buddy or to argue your beliefs. I am just trying to say that you should give your buddy and his family time to grieve the loss and let him quide you as to how you can support him. I am pretty sure that the Lord will not cometh today, as he won't be back until 2012.
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