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Old 04-12-2007, 05:28 AM   #1
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I forgot who coined that phrase last but I'd like to interject something. I know this will be a slippery than ice subject so I will handle it carefully.
I also know there is no way I'm going to change anyone's view on this but it may possilble cause us to reconsider our atitudes/ approach when conversing with folks of different beliefs.

Iwill only use myself as the bad example here as not to accidently offend anyone.
1.I use to think I could figure everyone out onceI knew what church or denomination they belonged too. Thisis so far from the truth. Christianity goes much deeper than the few doctrinal truths a church may beleive. Yes..there appears to be many similaities...but love is precious.and it doesn't matter if one chooses to worship in an Episcopal church , Pentecostal etc. if the outcome is fruit...and they get that from abiding in Jesus who am I to look down on one because I may be turned off with some of their beliefs.

2. Dealingwith sin in other Christains lives. After many blunders and much prayer I've learned demonstrating a Christ like life has much more value than giving instructions..Peter reminds us "Without a Word we can win our unsaved loved ones by our chaste life style." Trust me...they are watching. They are not missing a trick.

3. When correcting is necessary.....the Word tells us to correct with a spirit of meekness ...and another place speaking the truth in love and Jesus said...go in private...
We are to strive to be at peace with one another...Jesus prayed an entire prayer on the unity of believers in John 17.

4. Different levels....forget that mentality...no matter how close we get to the mark...we must remember still"Our righteousness is as filthy rags." Should we stop aiming..God forbid..there are blessings over flowing to the one who desires to please God with the whole heart..The only thing is..the older in Christ you get the more you realize your helplessness with out Him and that we are all on level ground.Certainly we have different gifts and strenghths and callings but God is the giver of all of those things and they are unearned gifts. Be ye thankful ...

5. Dealing with cults.and such....I honestly use scripture here and pray to God to help me answer with wisdom and love. "The righteous studieth how to answer." the Word says. As Chris has told us many times by His signature.."Words are like arrows..once released you cannot take them back." Let us aim each arrow carefully AND have ears to hear the master { For He may }whisper oh so quietly. "no...put that arrow back in the quiver and instead pray ." WE must be sensitive to God's Spirit if we are to make a difference.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:46 AM   #2
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:53 AM   #3
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Darn...just as I was walking out the door I thought of #6 and probably the real reason
6. Dealing with personality problems..I honestly think that is the biggy.

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Old 04-12-2007, 07:07 AM   #4
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Well said Chuck!!
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:18 AM   #5
 
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Good topic Chuck.

I was about to start a new thread about something I need to get off my chest. I think I can work it in here though.

This is mainly gonna deal w/ numbers 2 and 3 above. And it has to do with two very well known men: Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. I know this is gonna have a political flair, but I think it ties in here too. I have a MAJOR problem w/ these two people. NO, I'm not racist at all. How do you deal w/ people like them from a Christian standpoint? They claim to be "reverends", but they're actions are FAR from anything I believe God would have them do. Do they not realize the reproach they bring onto my Saviour? I know I'm not perfect (believe me), but I'm not the one running around withthe the most "respecter of persons" attitude I've ever seen. They ONLY care about one group of people, that's it.

How does one deal with people like this? They have an entire nation watching them. I am a very humble man, but these two nearly put a hatred in my heart.If not for Christ, I'm sure their would be.I'm aware they are human too, but their life goal doesn't seem to have anything to do with the Gospel of Christ to which they supposedly represent. They have their own agenda, and tack on God at the end for attention I guess?![:'(] Or, maybe add some sort of validity to their claims, dunno.


So, to tolerate--or not to tolerate? I personally feel they should put in their place by removing the attention they so dearly love. But my Bible says tonot return evil for evil. But, it also clearly says to rebuke, correct, etc. So........................
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:52 AM   #6
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I forgot who coined that phrase last but I'd like to interject something. I know this will be a slippery than ice subject so I will handle it carefully.
I also know there is no way I'm going to change anyone's view on this but it may possilble cause us to reconsider our atitudes/ approach when conversing with folks of different beliefs.

Iwill only use myself as the bad example here as not to accidently offend anyone.

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1.I use to think I could figure everyone out onceI knew what church or denomination they belonged too. Thisis so far from the truth. Christianity goes much deeper than the few doctrinal truths a church may beleive. Yes..there appears to be many similaities...but love is precious.and it doesn't matter if one chooses to worship in an Episcopal church , Pentecostal etc. if the outcome is fruit...and they get that from abiding in Jesus who am I to look down on one because I may be turned off with some of their beliefs.
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2. Dealingwith sin in other Christains lives. After many blunders and much prayer I've learned demonstrating a Christ like life has much more value than giving instructions..Peter reminds us "Without a Word we can win our unsaved loved ones by our chaste life style." Trust me...they are watching. They are not missing a trick.
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3. When correcting is necessary.....the Word tells us to correct with a spirit of meekness ...and another place speaking the truth in love and Jesus said...go in private...
We are to strive to be at peace with one another...Jesus prayed an entire prayer on the unity of believers in John 17.
This is a struggle for many!
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4. Different levels....forget that mentality...no matter how close we get to the mark...we must remember still"Our righteousness is as filthy rags." Should we stop aiming..God forbid..there are blessings over flowing to the one who desires to please God with the whole heart..The only thing is..the older in Christ you get the more you realize your helplessness with out Him and that we are all on level ground.Certainly we have different gifts and strenghths and callings but God is the giver of all of those things and they are unearned gifts. Be ye thankful ...
Amen, Good reminder.
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5. Dealing with cults.and such....I honestly use scripture here and pray to God to help me answer with wisdom and love. "The righteous studieth how to answer." the Word says. As Chris has told us many times by His signature.."Words are like arrows..once released you cannot take them back." Let us aim each arrow carefully AND have ears to hear the master { For He may }whisper oh so quietly. "no...put that arrow back in the quiver and instead pray ." WE must be sensitive to God's Spirit if we are to make a difference.
Some times most of us are guilty of this!
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Number 2 is a HUGE issue in almost any church today. We as christians have a really nasty tendancy when dealing with the church. We can forgive someone outside the church without much of a problem at all. However when it comes to christians because we expect more out of them or better ect ect we have a HUGE issue with truely forgiving our brothers and sisters in christ. To often in churches today the Shoot the wounded approach is practiced. When someone is going through a rough time in there life and falls into one of satan's pitfalls, trips ect christians are sadly the first ones to run in and want to shoot the wounded instead of reaching out to them and picking them up. When christ said Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, he did not put a clause on that for reaching out to a brother who is going through trouble. Love true christian love and forgiveness would prevent most of the "church splits" we see today. Sadly even from some pullpits, the shoot the wounded practice is preached.

How many times are you willing to forgive your brother in christ?

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Old 04-12-2007, 02:06 PM   #8
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Number 2 is a HUGE issue in almost any church today. We as christians have a really nasty tendancy when dealing with the church. Frank, I've been here over 2 years. My friend I have been the recipient of hostile treatment on here many times...it's horrible..AND I've also beat up on a few emotionally as well. NEVER AGAIN...that is not God...I repent of acting so ugly. We are a body. Who in their right mind wouold beat up on their little toe or left hand.We can forgive someone outside the church without much of a problem at all. However when it comes to christians because we expect more out of them or better ect ect we have a HUGE issue with truely forgiving our brothers and sisters in christ. #1Because we have higher expectations for other Christains...#2 My big mistake..I tended to think everyone had the same convictions and thinking process as me..WOW I was shockedto find out that everyone doesn't think I as I do.To often in churches today the Shoot the wounded approach is practiced. When someone is going through a rough time in there life and falls into one of satan's pitfalls, trips ect christians are sadly the first ones to run in and want to shoot the wounded instead of reaching out to them and picking them up. My brother..I've heard many good pastors say these days"There is a shortage on mature beleivers."When christ said Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, he did not put a clause on that for reaching out to a brother who is going through trouble. Love true christian love and forgiveness would prevent most of the "church splits" we see today. Sadly even from some pullpits, the shoot the wounded practice is preached.

How many times are you willing to forgive your brother in christ?

Frank
Frank...I agree with you wholeheartedly.and it's a shame..If you ever see me fall back into such an attitude.Please PM me and address the issue.
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So am I way off base here guys? I'm really not trying to be mean or anything. Just calling it like I see it. Maybe I shouldn't worry about it. But, people like that give Christians a bad reputation. They might be the only Bible some poor lost soul reads. [] [:@] And say: "if that's what being a Christian is about-I don't want any part of it".


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2. Dealingwith sin in other Christains lives. After many blunders and much prayer I've learned demonstrating a Christ like life has much more value than giving instructions..Peter reminds us "Without a Word we can win our unsaved loved ones by our chaste life style." Trust me...they are watching. They are not missing a trick.
well said. do u know what the reference is for that verse?
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