Satan...the chief musician.

[Chuck7]

Intro..PLEASE . Please ,,,please. read this thread carefully. Here lately I can't beleive how threads have gotten so bent out of shape. I posted the title to start an honest study for musicians or anyone else who listens tomusic.I'm starting this thread for ammunition and clarificatin for all of us .This study could help us all.

Reason for the study. i'm very narrow minded BUT whenever a person who is generally quiet speaks to me a word...I will listen intently and then check it out with scriptures. I have not checked this subject out real good yet and would love you folksto help me..so this is a subject that is still green, I've only checked out 2 verses so far and they are not solid.

OK ..Friday I stopped a Christian lady who comes to our school prayer group. We rarely talk.She's a loner type. Conversaton..

Chuck7..Mrs G , nearly everyday after work I 've been feeling bummed out. However: I've started putting hymns in my CD player while driving home.WOW ! what a difference that has made in my life. We also play them in the morning and evening.

Mrs. G.."oh yes..and Satan also has his music ...you know he was the chief musician in Heaven . Now that he is down here he is poisoning the world with his music. There are no advertizements on TV where his seductive music is not being played." He is luring our young people in by his music."

WOW ..no Mrs. G I never knew that ..I need to check that out.
Looking back into our culture I can almost believe what she is saying..but I'm not sure if scripture backs it up.Can you folks help me out here.?

This could be an interesting study..I know it would change the way I play somewhat...I certainly don't wantto bewillingly playing music from Satan.
Remember...I know nothing..I just want us to check the scriptures and see...and I woul dlike you guys to help me.
Thanks and God bless,
C7

[Chuck7]

OK...I have found many references to this but with no scripture to back it up. By the way..this study has nothing to do with the various styles of music one may choose to listen to. That is strictly between you and God.I wantto just know for me..

One interesting thing I read was this..

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Where then did the idea that satan was the chief musician come from. Again, the problem arises when we rely upon 17th century English. According to the KJV, Ez.28:13 reads in part: "... every precious stone was thy covering... the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created." (emphasis added) By really stretching, some believers have taken the word "pipes" to mean musical instruments. Therefore, according to their reasoning, since the Lucifer of Isaiah 14:12-14 is the same entity as the King of Tyre in Ez.28:13, and they are both satan, then satan must have played the pipes, and since he was the number one or two angel, he must have been the choir director. However, the Hebrew word translated as 'pipes' in the KJV is not a musical term. Rather, it is a technical term associated with jewelers which describes the place where stones are set. It has nothing whatsoever to do with music. As such, there is absolutely no Scriptural foundation to the chief musician portion of the fallen angel story either.

Seeking to know.
c7

[NiceAndBlue]

this is a subject that i feel passionately about. i listen to heavy music (some mellow stuff too tho). music that would make some of you older guys' ears bleed. a good portion of it however is christian. pretty much all of them tour with secular bands and play all the clubs and venues secular musicians play. what makes some of these bands different is that they are openly christian. whether it be in their lyrics or by stating during every show that they do what they do b/c of Jesus Christ. some will give fans a chance to talk to them about being christian after the show as well. to me this is not "satan luring young people in with his music," it's God doing it.

does the devil use music to get his message across at times? absolutely. just like he uses movies, tv, the internet or any other type of media.

i never understood why 18th century organ music is ok to listen to, but a modern electric guitar is suddenly a device of the devil himself.

and even if lucifer was the chief musician that doesn't really prove anything.

[Chuck7]

Hey Mike,
The question was..Was Satan the Chief Musician in Heaven?

[NiceAndBlue]

sorry, guess i got carried away when i read the quote from that lady.

anywho, i've never heard that he was the chief musician and your second post seems to confirm that he wasn't.