This post of course is not to cut anyone down, to bash anyones personal eating habits, or anything of the sort. It is simply a topic of discussion for those of us who are hunters and Christians alike.
As a person who believes in God and tries to show myself approved unto him, my entire life I have always tried to do that which is right. Sure it wasn't popular but I didn't care.
My question to all of you is this, what do you believe about that which God himself told us to not eat and that which you hunt? I personally refuse to eat swine(pigs), any bottom feeding fish, or scavengers. All of those things I ate as a child because I didn't know any better and my parents didn't care anything about health. Afterall, there is a reason that God set forth these laws to man, to his people, to keep them healthy!
We look around at society and suddenly we have this huge obestity problem. Yet when you ask a doctor about health problems they just shove the latest greatest pill in your face and say try this. Not once have I ever had a doctor ask me what my diet was. Look at the health problems of our youth and society in general that did not use to exist, or if they did were not prevalent. Diabetes, obesity, alzheimers, and the list goes on.
These days if I do accidently eat pork I am sickan hour later. Yet why is pork the second biggest meat product in the U.S.? Why not lamb? Did you know lamb contains CLA which helps fight against cancer? Beef is fine, deer if fine, fish with fins or scales are fine and all of these things God put forth as food that one may eat.
Do we as Christians just ignore what God said for no good reason? Now I know many have been taught falsehoods about such matters and that the New Testament did away with the laws of God, but this my friends is not true at all. God is the same today, yesterday, and forever. Man has the same makeup as he did when God put those laws in front of him. So what has changed? I know some say that the vision of Peter in the book of Acts did away with the health laws of God, but this is completely false. The vision was telling Peter to go to the Gentiles and only used food as an analogy. Peter told God in the vision that he would not eat of those animals and that none of them had he ever put into his mouth.
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RE: Hunting and the Food We Eat
Jason, I couln't agree with you more ....... I am looking forward to the responses from others ....
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Totally disagree. You sound alotlikeAlex the hawk/Kosherboy on here. Not only was it Peter, it was Paul who explained to us its not what goes in our mouth but what goes out. Its very documented. But as Alex told me by PM, he isn't even sure that Paul wrote the letters, he thinks possibly someone wrote them with an agenda as he said. So you have to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, you choose either to believe or not believe. You either choose to live under the covenant with the gentiles, or the law under Jews. I love reading Romans, even though its a tough book. Explains it in detail so easily.
Sometiems I wish the gentiles were the chosen, but bottom line we are not. But we have grace from God.
These days if I do accidently eat pork I am sick as hell an hour later. Yet why is pork the second biggest meat product in the U.S.? Why not lamb? Did you know lamb contains CLA which helps fight against cancer? Beef is fine, deer if fine, fish with fins or scales are fine and all of these things God put forth as food that one may eat.
You do realize that beef is considered the biggest contributor to our health problems, not pork, don't you? Kinda blows that argument out of the water.
According to Romans 14 it is a faith and personal conviction issue. If your convictions are telling you to leave certain foods alone..by all means do that...but whatsoever you do ..do it as unto the Lord.
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God didn't change, He simply had a plan and stuck with it. That is why we no longer have altars, men as priests (at least Christians do not), laws that demand an eye for an eye/tooth for a tooth/life for a life; stoning disobedient children,etc. Was Christ a law breaker? Why didn't he join in stoning the adulteress when she was brought before Him if we are bound by the Law of Moses?
If you choose to leave certain foods alone, I don't see a problem with that. On the other hand, there is no condemnation for those who choose to eat other foods. Any food can be unhealthy--in portion, in the way it's cooked, etc.
Finally, numerous verses in the New Testament verify we are not under the Law (which was not done away with, but rather it was fulfilled), but under grace: John 1:17, Romans 6:14, Galatians 2:21, Galatians 5:4, etc.
Galatians 5:4 warns against trying to use the law to justify your practices: "Christ is become no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."
Again, if you abstain from certain foods because you feel they are unhealthy or you just don't like them, I don't see anything wrong with that, but it's not a Biblical command for Christians to abstain from certain foods because they are considered unclean.
Chad
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Pretty clear here IMO. We ARE allowed to eat ALL foods as longs as we receive them with thanksgiving. It doesn't mean that we should just eat everything we want with reckless abandon since not all foods are good for us. There must have been a reason that they were forbidden at one time. However, that's no longer the case.
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Sounds like the Seventh Day Adventists are on the move. Also sounds some really great doctors. My doctor always tells me...To lose weight, eat less calories.
Fact is, humans are designed to survive with little. We have plenty.
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I have no doubt that God gave the dietary instructions that He did for our own benifit. I also think along the same lines as several have already posted. It's a personal-conviction issue...Let each man work out his own salvation...it's not what goes in our mouths but what comes out...
I do eat catfish, I eat pork, I marinade/bread meats with milk...I've never been convicted of doing this. I know some feel very strongly on this and would never try to tell them "you're wrong".
I had a really good point to wrap this all up but my brain just went skitzo on me. Bottomline is that I don't think we don't live under old testament laws. I think the laws are still active and still perform their duty. I think God is the same today and He was before creation. I think if the Holy Spirit convicts you of anything, including diet, you'd be wise to follow His lead.
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