"Give strong drink to him who is perishing, and wine to those who are bitter of heart."
"Let him drink and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more."
-Proverbs 31: 6-7
whats everyone think of this verse? there are many verses that say we shouldnt get drunk. this one sort of condicts it.
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You have to take the whole chapter in context. Context is everything in theBible. This chapter seems to be wrote for a warning to a king.NKJV says "The words of Kink Lemuel's mother".And his riegn should be characterized by holiness, and sobriety. MacArther says verses 6 and 7 could be for extreme situations of people in extreme pain with terminal illness but are utter contrast to that of a king. I don't know for sure, but that makes sense to me. Taken asa whole, its a warning to a king and sobriety, not a licence to get drunk and wild.
Alot like bigcountry said, I see it as saying not to deny people pain medication. (Today we have a whole realm of narcotics...back then good ole alcohol was about all they had.) I certainly don't see it as a license to get drunk.
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Three types of people are spoken of over and over again in the book of Proverbs. The wise man, the fool, and the scoffer. Try to see which one of these people fit into the context of the verse and I bet it isn't the wise man.
You can't just pick and choose individual verses to prove points, they have to be within the context of the chapter/book. Proverbs was written to a different people in a different time in a completely different world, however, by examining the surrounding passages, the purpose of the author and his intent of effect on the audience, we can find eternal biblical principles.
A commentary or study Bible would help in these areas...
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RE: drinking verse
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You have to take the whole chapter in context. Context is everything in theBible.
I actually agree with you on this, context, context, context....
Who are you, and what did you do to Red Lion? [8D]
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You have to take the whole chapter in context. Context is everything in theBible. This chapter seems to be wrote for a warning to a king.NKJV says "The words of Kink Lemuel's mother".And his riegn should be characterized by holiness, and sobriety. MacArther says verses 6 and 7 could be for extreme situations of people in extreme pain with terminal illness but are utter contrast to that of a king. I don't know for sure, but that makes sense to me. Taken asa whole, its a warning to a king and sobriety, not a licence to get drunk and wild.
So we should take this verse into context but not 1 Corinthians when speaking of women pastors? Isn't this the breathed Word of God? How do we determine which verses to take into context and which not to?
I'm not trying to be mean or pick a fight bigcountry so please don't take offense to me quoting you on this, just trying to prove a point.
You have to take the whole chapter in context. Context is everything in theBible. This chapter seems to be wrote for a warning to a king.NKJV says "The words of Kink Lemuel's mother".And his riegn should be characterized by holiness, and sobriety. MacArther says verses 6 and 7 could be for extreme situations of people in extreme pain with terminal illness but are utter contrast to that of a king. I don't know for sure, but that makes sense to me. Taken asa whole, its a warning to a king and sobriety, not a licence to get drunk and wild.
So we should take this verse into context but not 1 Corinthians when speaking of women pastors? Isn't this the breathed Word of God? How do we determine which verses to take into context and which not to?
I'm not trying to be mean or pick a fight bigcountry so please don't take offense to me quoting you on this, just trying to prove a point.
No, thank you for proving my point. You have to take timothy and recommendations for being leaders of church in context. By all means, take them into context. In fact, I beg some of you to take them in context.
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