It's been quite a while since we last discussed this and there's new members on here now that might want to chime in on this
What do y'all think about women as pastors? Scriptural or unscriptural? Good idea or bad idea? I have my own thoughts on it, but I'll wait to see what others have to say first.
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1 Timothy 3
1This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
Ephesians ch 5 22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
23For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
I believe the above passages are quite clear on the subject. Now how can a wife whowould be a pastorsubmit herself to her husband while she is ruling her household well and yet at the same time be the husband of one wife.
[33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
[34] Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
[35] And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
[36] What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
Those who believe women should be restricted from holding an authoritative, pastoral role in the church embrace what is known as the "historic" or "traditional" view. On the other hand, those who believe women should possess the ability to occupy all positions of leadership within the church embrace what is referred to as the "egalitarian" or "progressive" view.
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The bible doesn't tell me that they cant be. I guess its everyones own understanding of the scriptures. Here are my scriptures that support my understanding.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There in neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 11 And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.
I would'nt go on a rage about women pastors, nor come against them at all. I simply would not sit under a womans teaching in church or attend a church that allowed such a thing. I have a close sister that is an ordained minister and I have never heard her preach . . . .I never intend to.
With that said, I have had some of my best fellowship at the feet of a wise old grandmother in her home.
I think the longest I have ever listened to one preach was maybe 5 minutes and it was long enough to see why they generally should'nt be behind a pulpit. I discreetly removed myself and never returned.
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My church doesn't allow women to be pastors and they also don't allow members to vote on issues like that so I don't concern myself much with the question.
If I had a voice in the matter, I'm not sure which way I would go.
this topic reallybaffles me. how we can all read the same book and be so totally way off from one another on theunderstanding of a topic.
I know i was raised in a church that a was hard core about this. Women had to ask permission to go the rest room. Just kidding, but it was bad! My grandad is still that way.
I cant read the bible and see and understand what he and those against women pastorssee and understand.
this topic reallybaffles me. how we can all read the same book and be so totally way off from one another on theunderstanding of a topic.
I know i was raised in a church that a was hard core about this. Women had to ask permission to go the rest room. Just kidding, but it was bad! My grandad is still that way.
I cant read the bible and see and understand what he and those against women pastorssee and understand.
Before I read the Bible, I didn't understand all the hoopla. After I read it, its very clear what it says in there. Hey, who am I to question the one who made me.
DK, what do you think Paul means when he talks of it? Think we are intrepretting it wrong?
this topic reallybaffles me. how we can all read the same book and be so totally way off from one another on theunderstanding of a topic.
I know i was raised in a church that a was hard core about this. Women had to ask permission to go the rest room. Just kidding, but it was bad! My grandad is still that way.
I cant read the bible and see and understand what he and those against women pastorssee and understand.
As far as the Catholic Church is concerned, it's not really a biblical thing. It's a tradition. Women get up and do readings and give lessons and distribute the sacrament. They just can't be priests or deacons.
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