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Old 03-14-2007, 04:22 AM   #1
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DEAR FRIENDS,
I really did want to discuss the many positive aspects of the doctrines found in those churches. The scripture says "Blessed is he that loveth my Word and NOTHING shall by any means offend them." So don't be easily offended. AS God has brought me back to the green pastures I find myself going back to some of the things I'd forgotten.Remember .."Faith worketh by love." Therefore ; I would presume the more love someone has the more faith they would have."

Ok ..let's do it...Here is my subject and all are welcome to inject your beliefs and experiences as we grow together in Christ.

The subject is the way we pray. God told the disciples "You feed them." "You heal them." I find when I'm closeto God he stops me from praying ..
Jesus, I pray that you would heal my wife in Jesus name.Amen..not quite so short but you folks getthe picture.

Last night she was sick ...now it's hard for me to pray like this but in obedience I did and she was healed. I prayed like this

"Sickness leave my wife in Jesus name." I speak to the circumstance because it is my understanding that God has given us authority.

Honestly ..our home has blessed written all over it. God has truly delivered us and we are a blessed people.

All feedback is welcomed.
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:45 AM   #2
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Folks,
Please don't worry about hurting my feelings. I no longer have thin skin..
Trust I'm free...just be yourself and respond and let's sharpen some iron.
The old Chuck is dead.
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:47 AM   #3
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Matthew 17.20

And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Seems like only our faith(or lack of faith)holds us back from doing the great things we could do


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Old 03-14-2007, 09:14 AM   #4
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Thanks in advance for replying,
Great verse. I honestly think the whole matter is according to one's faith. I recieved this word while doing a sign ministry 5 years ago. I would hold up a scripture sign at a busy intersection for around 2 hours. While holding my sign I would meditate on God's Word. He began showing me that I needed to speak teh Word of God to the situation. now, when I was backslidden ..forget it. "For a double minded man recieveth NOTHING from the Lord..BUT ..when your heart condemeth you not you pray differently. Fact..last week I ask God to help me "Pray the fervent effectual prayer."
This morning I kept wanting to beg God to heal my wife or others..and i kept gettign a check in my spirti that says "You speakto that sickness in Jesus name." For there are 2 thoughts...We are either disciples like the original 12 or we are lesser disciples...that I beleive is according to one's faith.

Folks..trust me..I can handle any answer so please feel free to express your heart. I 'm no longe super sensitive..I'm free .

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Matthew 17.20

And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

Seems like only our faith(or lack of faith)holds us back from doing the great things we could do
Agreed! Also, whatsoever is not of faith, is of sin. Make sure you pray in faith. (Which steps on my toes a bit too. [&o]) And, don't forget the ever important "if it be your will Lord". I feel that is key as well. ex: (Please heal her according to your will Lord). It MUST be His will, not ours.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:58 AM   #6
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I smiled so big when I read your posts. You sound like what I believe.

Anyway, I agree with you whole heartedly. We as Born again Christians have authority over things that come against us.I think that christians today are almost to a degree of watered down.They read the bible, know God's will, but because of the world and whats the norm in the world today, its holding them back from what God has given to his children.

Heres an example in astory Iheard about Smith Wigglesworth, you may have heard of him maybe not but he is an example to follow. The story goes like this.
Smith was holding a revival and everynight before he would start he would say to the congragation, "The first people that make it on stage will be healed of there sickness and desease." Well one night there was a lady that had a tumor in her stomach that was so big, weighed something like 100lbs. It was cancerous and the women was losing the battle. Anyway two other ladies helped her onto the stage, one under each arm to support her.Smith told the two ladies to let her go, they quickly replied, "we can't because the cancer has taken her strength and she cant stand on her own". Smith raised his voice and demanded that these ladies let her go. They let her go and right away the lady fell face forward to the floor landing on the tumor, and she screamed in pain. Smith told the ladies to pick her up and they did. Smith told them again to let her go, they quickly replied "NO, she just fell and we are not going to let her fall again." Smith angrily demanded that they let her go, so they did and again she fell straight way to the floor face first landing on the tumor, she screamed louder in pain. Smith told the ladies to help her up again and they did. Smith told them again to let her go and a man in the congragation stood up and shouted, "you beast, leave that sick woman alone, can't you see she's really sick?!". Smith turned and pointed at the man in the congragation and said to him, "YOU sit down, shut up and mind your own business!". Smith turned and looked at the two ladies again and shouted at them, "let her go!", as soon as they released her arms the tumor fell off the lady and out of her dress and it fell to the floor. She was healed.

Now why doesn't this work for us all? Is it our faith? Is it our belief? Is it doubt?We see the sickness and desease and believe in thier circumstances, we have also read the bible and know 1 Peter 2:24 and Isaiah 53:5, ...and withHis stripes we ARE healed, or you WERE healed. So which are we going to believe. I believe that which ever one you magnify will be the one that comes to pass.In the story about Smith, he did not ever waiver from what he believed in God's word. The room was full of doubt and unbelief and were focused in on the tumor, and not what the Bible, (the TRUE) word of God says. Smith did not see and believe inthe circumstanses of the tumor, he only believed in what the Word of God said.


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Old 03-14-2007, 11:17 AM   #7
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I smiled so big when I read your posts. You sound like what I believe.
DK I told you all along I agreed 80 %
Anyway, I agree with you whole heartedly. We as Born again Christians have authority over things that come against us.I think that christians today are almost to a degree of watered down.They read the bible, know God's will, but because of the world and whats the norm in the world today, its holding them back from what God has given to his children.

Heres an example in astory Iheard about Smith Wigglesworth,I love Wigglesworth..I've readth ebook about his life..WOW!!you may have heard of him maybe not but he is an example to follow. The story goes like this.
Smith was holding a revival and everynight before he would start he would say to the congragation, "The first people that make it on stage will be healed of there sickness and desease." Well one night there was a lady that had a tumor in her stomach that was so big, weighed something like 100lbs. It was cancerous and the women was losing the battle. Anyway two other ladies helped her onto the stage, one under each arm to support her.Smith told the two ladies to let her go, they quickly replied, "we can't because the cancer has taken her strength and she cant stand on her own". Smith raised his voice and demanded that these ladies let her go. They let her go and right away the lady fell face forward to the floor landing on the tumor, and she screamed in pain. Smith told the ladies to pick her up and they did. Smith told them again to let her go, they quickly replied "NO, she just fell and we are not going to let her fall again." Smith angrily demanded that they let her go, so they did and again she fell straight way to the floor face first landing on the tumor, she screamed louder in pain. Smith told the ladies to help her up again and they did. Smith told them again to let her go and a man in the congragation stood up and shouted, "you beast, leave that sick woman alone, can't you see she's really sick?!". Smith turned and pointed at the man in the congragation and said to him, "YOU sit down, shut up and mind your own business!". Smith turned and looked at the two ladies again and shouted at them, "let her go!", as soon as they released her arms the tumor fell off the lady and out of her dress and it fell to the floor. She was healed.

Now why doesn't this work for us all?I'm atschool now and plan to comment later..good stuff.Is it our faith? Is it our belief? Is it doubt?We see the sickness and desease and believe in thier circumstances, we have also read the bible and know 1 Peter 2:24 and Isaiah 53:5, ...and withHis stripes we ARE healed, or you WERE healed. Be back later on this ..So which are we going to believe. I believe that which ever one you magnify will be the one that comes to pass.In the story about Smith, he did not ever waiver from what he believed in God's word. The room was full of doubt and unbelief and were focused in on the tumor, and not what the Bible, (the TRUE) word of God says. Smith did not see and believe inthe circumstanses of the tumor, he only believed in what the Word of God said.

I can't wait to get back with ya..I've only got a short break here at school but I love this subject...

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Old 03-14-2007, 01:01 PM   #8
 
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That is also as I believe. At my church, we see the Holy Spirit manifested many ways, and we see the supernatural Healing power of God healing our members and visitors on a regular basis.

I mean you gotta believe me.... It is really something else. You wanna talk about building up faith..... It is there.

But it has to be. How else could you explain a Southern Baptist Church in Arkansas, voting to Change its name, and becoming almost Penticostal, with laying on of hands, speaking in prayer languages, healing, intercessory prayer, deliverance, etc..........

------ and still be a member of the Southern Baptist Convention....LOL
That in and of itself is a miracle......

But yes, prayer addressing the problem is the right way. Specific prayer. We have the ability to cast out sickness and demons. To help those under oppression, and even the LOrd said we would do these and greater things.

Praise Jesus, I have even recieved healing within the last 6 months, in a way that the Doctors could not explain or believe. But they did not have to believe........because I did. God is faithful.

God bless,

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Old 03-14-2007, 02:13 PM   #9
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Amen..Michael T.
I've been here long enough to know the rest of the fellows on here wopuld liketo see some scripture. So here are a few ...

1.John 15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

The key is abiding in His Word....Abiding to me is more than reading it or memorzing it or claiming it..it is obeying and ordering your life according to it. Then you can ask "What YE Will."

2.Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Key ..to them that dilently seek Him.

3. Faith like Abraham....Romans 4:17(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. So faith does not have to see the results..it calleth things "Which be not as though they are."
18 Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. We are Abraham's seed. Children of the promice...and SO SHALL THY SEED BE. We are to be like Abraham..believers and not doubters.
19And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, Abraham did not look on the natural outward circumstances when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
21And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
22And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
23Now it was not written for his sake alone..Exactly it was written also for our benefit..Amen.


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