We all know it`s good and biblical to plan for the future and as the last days draw near,do you have a plan for you and your family? If it`s time to hide or die what will you do? To ignore this is highly unGodly IMO,people without a plan are dead people
We all know it`s good and biblical to plan for the future and as the last days draw near,do you have a plan for you and your family? If it`s time to hide or die what will you do? To ignore this is highly unGodly IMO,people without a plan are dead people
I won't be here. My plan is to accept Christ now, and be called up before the tribulation. You planning on staying? Whats your plan if you stay. Living to the world is un Godly as you say. Worrying about tomorrow is Un-Godly as you say.
We all know it`s good and biblical to plan for the future and as the last days draw near,do you have a plan for you and your family? If it`s time to hide or die what will you do? To ignore this is highly unGodly IMO,people without a plan are dead people
I know we all need to trust the Lord at his word. He will take care of us. Besides, to be absent from the flesh is to be present with the Lord! BTW BC what scripture can you supply to support a pretrib rapture.
25"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life[b]?
28"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Goodness,Pre, post, and midtrib has been debated to death by people for hundreds of years dabowhunter. I suggest you go thru Revelations and read it yourself come to your own conclution as I have.
It really doesn't make much difference if convince you,or not.
I already picked out these mountains were very few ever been there and am stocking caves with survival goods, how about you ?
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The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. Zephaniah 1:14
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For me,the proof of mid-trib rapture came from books like daniel as much as rev. BC ,I`m sure we`ve all done our own studies and formed our opinions on this subject prior to this post.If you are pre-trib in belief I can see why you obviously would concern yourself with what christians will do when the anti-christ is in his hayday,but I completely disagree with the pretrib cop out,too many verses to disregard
"It really doesn't make much difference if convince you,or not."
Perhaps not, but it willbe ahuge diffference for those that are expecting itpretribif it does not happen. I certainly hope your right brother, I won't mind being wrong on this one.
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"It really doesn't make much difference if convince you,or not."
Perhaps not, but it willbe ahuge diffference for those that are expecting itpretribif it does not happen. I certainly hope your right brother, I won't mind being wrong on this one.
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I hear ya. I have flipped flopped on this issue a few times, and have been convinced about Rev.order of events. But I am with you, I can only pray for a pretrib. Now, I believe kosherboy is in an entirely different boat than I.
Archers, what do you mean by pretrib copout? Maybe a little rude here? I don't know. Pre, post, or mid, you shouldn't be acting any different. You should be following Jesus's commands. Waiting until that time, one might consider a copout.
For me,the proof of mid-trib rapture came from books like daniel as much as rev. BC ,I`m sure we`ve all done our own studies and formed our opinions on this subject prior to this post.If you are pre-trib in belief I can see why you obviously would concern yourself with what christians will do when the anti-christ is in his hayday,but I completely disagree with the pretrib cop out,too many verses to disregard
Like I said I hope I am wrong. But for arguments sake lets assume there is no rapture. Millions including myself have read the left behind series. Based on that and popular opinion a large percentage of Christians are banking on a pretrib rapture. Imagine the confusion that would result, especially if satan orchestrates some type of copy-cat rapture of certain peoples. Just food for thought. Heading for Petra alex?
Can anyone show any verse in the New Testament that actually, clearly teaches that there is any rapture or tribulation? Thanks.
Hebrews 9:27 "It is appointed unto man once to die and then the judgment." 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 "and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes, in that Day, to be glorified in His saints and to be admired among all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed." 2 Peter3:4-8 "Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation." 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." 2 Peter 3:10-12 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11 Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat?
There is no hint of any tribulation in these verses. Sounds to me likethe Day of Judgment is an actual day.
do you have a plan for the tribulation?
