In the book of Matthew it goes through the Genealogy of Jesus and shows how he is a decendant of David. Since he was born of a virgin and Joseph was not actually his father, how is he a direct decendant?
Hmmm....I don't know if "direct" decendant is how the Bible states it. The reason I think Mathew took the time to write out all that stuff was because according to the Jewish Tradition the Messiah would be a decendant of King David. He (Mathew) is making his case for Jesus Christ being exactly who he claimed he was.
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Mary was from the tribe of Judah and so was David, she was a princess of the house of David, Second so was Yosef his adoptive Father.
And so Am I from the Tribe of Judah that is, The tribe of Judah was the Royal Family Of Israel from the clan of The Perez, See Gen 38 and Ruth Chapter 4.
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Mary was from the tribe of Judah and so was David, she was a princess of the house of David, Second so was Yosef his adoptive Father.
And so Am I from the Tribe of Judah that is, The tribe of Judah was the Royal Family Of Israel from the clan of The Perez, See Gen 38 and Ruth Chapter 4.
Shalom
That's pretty much the traditional explanation. But keep in mind that it was important to be consistent with the prophecies that the messiah would be the "son of david." Matthew is tracing Jesus' geneology in order to show consistency with these prophecies. This was very important. The idea that Jesus was born of a virgin may have come along later and this geneology doesn't fit as well as we might like it to. Keep in mind also that the passage in Isaiah that refers to the messiah being born of a virgin has been slightly mistranslated. The Hebrew word "almah" there refers to a "young woman" who could be a virgin but might not be.
I've heard that too but how does that explain the following from Matthew?
18This is how the birth of Jesus Christ came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be with child through the Holy Spirit. 19Because Joseph her husband was a righteous man and did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.
Why would Joseph want to divorce her if the Hebrew word was mistranslated and she was not actually a virgin?
Mary was from the tribe of Judah and so was David, she was a princess of the house of David, Second so was Yosef his adoptive Father.
And so Am I from the Tribe of Judah that is, The tribe of Judah was the Royal Family Of Israel from the clan of The Perez, See Gen 38 and Ruth Chapter 4.
Shalom
That's pretty much the traditional explanation. But keep in mind that it was important to be consistent with the prophecies that the messiah would be the "son of david." Matthew is tracing Jesus' geneology in order to show consistency with these prophecies. This was very important. The idea that Jesus was born of a virgin may have come along later and this geneology doesn't fit as well as we might like it to. Keep in mind also that the passage in Isaiah that refers to the messiah being born of a virgin has been slightly mistranslated. The Hebrew word "almah" there refers to a "young woman" who could be a virgin but might not be.
Your putting todays standards on people from 2000 years ago, Yes the word alma is used for a teenage female, but under the law Jews kept such things to the letter, there wasn't the free for all in sex as today.
In the daily lives of Jews male and females were kept pretty much separate, so it is just mistrust on your part, due to been borned in a different society and time.
One of the main issues that Jews from america face when they migrate to Israel, is to accept the Jewish life and expectations, but most all accepted and blend into it.
Had she been pregnant out of wedlock she would have been stoned to death, this was very real and serve to keep females in their virginity estate.
It took a revelation from an angel to persuade Yosef to marry her and adopt the child.
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Its been acknowledged that in Luke that the genealogy follows from Mary. I thinks thats great, no matter how you look at it he came from the line of David.
Mary was from the tribe of Judah and so was David, she was a princess of the house of David, Second so was Yosef his adoptive Father.
And so Am I from the Tribe of Judah that is, The tribe of Judah was the Royal Family Of Israel from the clan of The Perez, See Gen 38 and Ruth Chapter 4.
Shalom
That's pretty much the traditional explanation. But keep in mind that it was important to be consistent with the prophecies that the messiah would be the "son of david." Matthew is tracing Jesus' geneology in order to show consistency with these prophecies. This was very important. The idea that Jesus was born of a virgin may have come along later and this geneology doesn't fit as well as we might like it to. Keep in mind also that the passage in Isaiah that refers to the messiah being born of a virgin has been slightly mistranslated. The Hebrew word "almah" there refers to a "young woman" who could be a virgin but might not be.
Your putting todays standards on people from 2000 years ago, Yes the word alma is used for a teenage female, but under the law Jews kept such things to the letter, there wasn't the free for all in sex as today.
In the daily lives of Jews male and females were kept pretty much separate, so it is just mistrust on your part, due to been borned in a different society and time.
One of the main issues that Jews from america face when they migrate to Israel, is to accept the Jewish life and expectations, but most all accepted and blend into it.
Had she been pregnant out of wedlock she would have been stoned to death, this was very real and serve to keep females in their virginity estate.
It took a revelation from an angel to persuade Yosef to marry her and adopt the child.
Not putting any standards on, just mentioning some helpful facts.
True, sexual behavior was under substantially greater control in those days. Boys and girls were not allowed to associate with each other unchaperoned. On the other hand people still found ways to violate the rules. That's why there were rules and provisions for enforcing them.
Mary (Miriam) would not have been stoned. Stoning was only for adultery. Adultery consisted of a married woman"doing it" with a man other than her husband or a man "doing it" with a married woman other than his wife. MIriam being an obvious non-virgin would have made her undesirable as a potential mate, but would not have gotten her stoned. We, of course define adultery a little differently today than the Torah does. We have somewhat broadened the definition. Many people are not aware of the difference.
Joseph was not concerned with becoming the father (stepfather) of the messiah. So he would not have been concerned with the prophecies. Matthew, however, was concerned because the prophecies were quite clear that the messiah would be a descendant of King David. Since Isaiah did not specify that the messiah would be born of a virgin, whether or not Miriam was a virgin would not have been especially relevant.
For all we know, Matthew when explaining this, may have assumed, as everyone else would have at the time, that Joseph was Jesus' biological father.
In the Old Testament, if a woman had sexual relations with a man before being married it fell into two categories "” rape or willing prostitution. If an engaged woman was raped, the man who raped her received the death penalty. If an engaged woman willingly participated in fornication both the man and the woman were put to death. If a woman was raped but was not engaged to be married, the man had to pay a large sum of money to her father and marry her with no possibility of divorce. The exception was if the girl's father would not allow the man to marry his daughter, then he paid the fine of a large dowry (Ex. 22:16; Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:20-21, 23-29).
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
20"But if this (A)charge is true, that the girl was not found a virgin,
21then they shall bring out the girl to the doorway of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death because she has (B)committed an act of folly in Israel by playing the harlot in her father's house; thus (C)you shall purge the evil from among you.
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