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Old 01-11-2007, 04:21 PM   #1
 
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take up a position teaching Sunday school. What is your churches policy on that ? Also, they want to meet on Wed night and fellowship with everyone in small work groups.
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:37 PM   #2
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i have no problem with them attending our worship service, but i think taking any kind of "teaching" role would be out of the question, just as the practicing

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Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Leviticus 18:29

For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit [them] shall be cut off from among their people.



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Old 01-11-2007, 04:45 PM   #3
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First Timothy
Chapter 3


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3:1
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3:3
Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

3:4
One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

3:5
(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

3:6
Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

3:7
Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

3:8
Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

3:9
Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

3:10
And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.

3:11
Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

3:12
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

3:13
For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Most churches today use these guide lines for those holding any kind of office or leadership position. How could some one gay meet these requirements?
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Old 01-11-2007, 05:16 PM   #4
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i have no problem with them attending our worship service, but i think taking any kind of "teaching" role would be out of the question, just as the practicing

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child molesters,murders,lairs,adulterers,drunks, two that lust after women, two gluttons"¦



Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Leviticus 18:29

For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit [them] shall be cut off from among their people.

I also agree with you brother!
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IN My Temple to begin with , if they come as a gay couple they will not be welcome, Homosexuality is an abomination to the God Of Israel.
If they come seeking forgiveness and restitution back to natural habits then they will be welcome.
No ifs or buts about it.
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:09 PM   #6
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REbel and MT, You guys follow all the old testament rules must be really interesting.

If you let them teach Sunday school it would be the same as letting any unreptant sinner teach it wouldn't it? Proably not a good idea or good example for the kids.

Buster T,Your not afraid if your involved in a small group with them they might try and recruit you are you?[8D]
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:18 PM   #7
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I have a serious question.

Do you folks shun those that have been divorced for a reason other then the wife sleeping around on their husband. Isn't that the only reason according to the bible that you can divorce and not committ adultery?

Another question if I may.

Why is the divorce rate as high as it is among Christians? it is as high if not higher then that of unbelievers?
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NO way. Niether would we allow a known liar, adulterer, or any other sinner who refuses to repent. To be a teacher one must meet the requirments set up by our eldership. There is a questionaire and if there is any problems with any answers then the elders would meet with the individual and teach them the way of God more perfectly.

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Do you folks shun those that have been divorced for a reason other then the wife sleeping around on their husband. Isn't that the only reason according to the bible that you can divorce and not committ adultery?
The only divorced person I "shun" is my aunt's former husband. He committed adultery and left their family without any support. My reasons for staying away from him are more personal than spiritual. Although at the time that it all happened my dad did go to him and try to get him to obey the Bible and come home and be faithful. But he refused.

And yes the only reason for a marriage to end besides death is if one spouse is sexually unfaithful. If the divorce is for any other reason then they may not remarry. Andif either of the two marry another thenthey are commiting adultery in their new marriage. And causing the new spouse to commit adultery. It is very plain and clear in Matthew 19:9 - "And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery."

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take up a position teaching Sunday school. What is your churches policy on that ? Also, they want to meet on Wed night and fellowship with everyone in small work groups. Buster

Absolutely not!! However; I know of 3 converted gays. They are some of the most devoted Christians I've ever met. I will post one. He was my best man at my wedding. When I last seen David he was a missionary. I went fishing with David once. While I was casting for bass...he literally had other fishermen excepting Christ. I know he must have witnessed to over 50 folks that day. he is a walking Bible / vegetarian. So please don't rule them out. Also while at the white house I was influential in leading a gay to Christ. Here's David...a walking straight,no fooling, no fear Bible quoting lover of Yeshua. The soldier is me in my HOnor Guard White House uniform. My jaw is swollen because I just had 4 wisdom teeth pulled. David is one of my top 3 most serious Christians I've ever met. My top 1 is the black lady I post...Mrs. Wesley. They have 2 totally different styles. David is a no fear Mr. King James get right to business man.Mrs; Wesley ..she knows all about those secret sins ..and in love she will pray you through. She is very close to God.






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