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Old 12-30-2006, 09:30 AM   #1
 
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If what you teach/preach is true, then why do you do what you do?

What's the point of rebuking someone that God has not "chosen" to be saved? If they're not already "chosen" He's not going to. So, what is your purpose? What are you trying to accomplish? Put yourself on a pedastal? Exhault yourself above others?

I do not understand your purpose. [&:] Why preach to someone who has no chance at Salvation? Why tell them of His love if they can't partake of it? Are you just trying to rub some noses here or what?

What is your purpose?


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Old 12-30-2006, 09:46 AM   #2
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Hmm, good question. Lets see how he explains this. Also, I am still waiting for the John 3:16 explaination. He can't dance around that forever.
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If what you teach/preach is true, then why do you do what you do?

What's the point of rebuking someone that God has not "chosen" to be saved? If they're not already "chosen" He's not going to. So, what is your purpose? What are you trying to accomplish? Put yourself on a pedastal? Exhault yourself above others?

I do not understand your purpose. [&:] Why preach to someone who has no chance at Salvation? Why tell them of His love if they can't partake of it? Are you just trying to rub some noses here or what?

What is your purpose?

I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry
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Old 12-30-2006, 09:56 AM   #4
 
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All that is void if everyone is already chosen. What would be the point then?

Surely if God wants something done, He would have a reason. Again, if what you say is true, there's no point in preaching/teaching to anyone.
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Old 12-30-2006, 10:01 AM   #5
 
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Billy, again, I ask you to comment on the following Scriptures, one at a time. Is your "faith" strong enough Billy, or must you have your pastor speak for you. Since you deny that God Chooses men, AGAIN I ask you to show us where there Scriptures are flawed........Remember Billy, your silence is deafening.........
[*]Matthew 12:18
Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.[*]Matthew 20:16
So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.[*]Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.
-[*]Mark 13:20
And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.[*]Luke 6:13
And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;[*]Luke 10:42
But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.[*]Luke 14:7
And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them.[*]Luke 23:35
And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.[*]John 6:70
Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?[*]John 13:18
I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.[*]John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.[*]John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.[*]Acts 1:2
Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:[*]Acts 1:24
And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,[*]Acts 6:5
And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:[*]Acts 9:15
But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:[*]Acts 10:41
Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.[*]Acts 13:17
The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.[*]Acts 15:22
Then pleased it the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
Acts 15:25
It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,[*]Acts 15:40
And Paul chose Silas, and departed, being recommended by the brethren unto the grace of God.[*]Acts 22:14
And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.[*]Romans 16:13
Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.[*]1 Corinthians 1:27
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;[*]1 Corinthians 1:28
And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

Here is more........

[ol][*]Ephesians 1:4
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:[*]2 Thessalonians 2:13
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:[*]2 Timothy 2:4
No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.[*]James 2:5
Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
James 2:4-6 (in Context) James 2 (Whole Chapter)[*]1 Peter 2:4
To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,[*]1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;[*]Revelation 17:14
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.[/ol]
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And Bl your silence as well as your avoidance is even more telling. I have benn leaving you these questions since last night, and now Billy is asking you the same thing, and you will answer no one.

WHY?

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Old 12-30-2006, 10:10 AM   #7
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If what you teach/preach is true, then why do you do what you do?

What's the point of rebuking someone that God has not "chosen" to be saved? If they're not already "chosen" He's not going to. So, what is your purpose? What are you trying to accomplish? Put yourself on a pedastal? Exhault yourself above others?

I do not understand your purpose. [&:] Why preach to someone who has no chance at Salvation? Why tell them of His love if they can't partake of it? Are you just trying to rub some noses here or what?

What is your purpose?

I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry
Bill, that doesn't answer the question at all.
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:06 PM   #8
 
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Matthew 12:

33"œA tree is identified by its fruit. If a tree is good, its fruit will be good. If a tree is bad, its fruit will be bad. 34You brood of snakes! How could evil men like you speak what is good and right? For whatever is in your heart determines what you say. 35A good person produces good things from the treasury of a good heart, and an evil person produces evil things from the treasury of an evil heart. 36And I tell you this, you must give an account on judgment day for every idle word you speak. 37The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you."

BL, what words have been coming out of your mouth. What good works can be seen from your time here on HNI. You have used your callous ways to preach at people, and you are prideful that you feel pushed out by others here. You stand up and say look at what I have done, then at how I have been treated. But God says that if you come in His name, you should be producing good works. How have your words made a difference for the better here.

How can you call Gods Children satan , or demons. For out of the mouth cometh the overflow of the heart.
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Old 12-31-2006, 09:34 AM   #10
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Bill you desperately needpray that God take off the blinders that are on your eyes, the devil has deceived you dearly. You need to pray to see with your spiritual eyes.
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