Pastor Steve,
Bill is quite an intellegent man. He has a very good handle on the fear of God and God's unmerited love toward mankind. He andI have had almost identical experiences with the local churches and I for one know where he is coming from. I know he doesn't hate God's people. His ministry is to shake up the hypocrisy and those that lay burdens on others that actually keep them from God...and I agree with Bill.Many local churches do just that. Bill believes there are some genuine believers in all the local churches in which I do to. Bill has a very good handle on God''s love toward true Christians. I was very much blessed as I needed to hear his understanding about God's love.
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Pastor Steve,
I've only been fortunate to run into about a dozen of really sold out Christians since 1976...Bill is one of those on that list. It only took me about 60 seconds on the phone and I realized i had pegged this man wrong.
When I first came here I pegged another man wrong..Strut. Strut looked mean and cold to me. LOL You will never find another man with true hospitality.He is one of my best friends...and I don't have many best friends. God's love brought him and I together and has kept us together.
Well Chuck I certainly won't disregard your experience with him. Sounds like it was a good phone call.
Hard to see on this angle though you know?? I have been a Pastor for a short time. In fact....a VERY short time. But I've been a sold out Christian for going on 9 years. I love the Lord. I want to serve and please him. I do everything I can to try and make sure that I teach the true Word of God when I teach or preach.
I too hate hypocracy. You see it everywhere. From the pulpit to the pew and beyond. It's horrible. I hate politics in church as well which is actually why I feel the Lord lead me awayfrom my denomination andlead to go non denom and just start a church that is pleasing to Him and Him only.
I become very down trodden when I flip on the TV or read the newspaper and hear of another pastor who has admitted to adultery, homosexual dual life, embezzlement and the list goes on and on. It breaks my heart because I know that there are those out there that may never turn to the Lord because of the now mistrust of church leadership.
But there are good men of Christ who are Pastoring churches the way the Lord wants them too as well. God fearing men who are doing all they can to make diciples just as the Lord told us to do. And while I'm certainly not what I would consider a 'grande' man in the scheme of things, I'm trying to do my part to help the kingdom as well.
So when a person comes on here and accuses me of robbing the people, leading God's people astry and into the pits of hell, being a blasphemer and every other name under the sun that BL has called me and accused me of when he hasn't a CLUEas to who I am or what God is calling me to do or enabling me to do, yeah....it ticks me off and I see no love of Christ anywhere in him. And then to hide under his vail of 'I'm just sharing truth and you can't handle it' junk is just over the top.
If you got to see another side of BL and you see a love and compassion that hasn't been seen on here, then that is great. But based on what I, and from what others have said as well have seen and heard, it's really hard to see it.
Anyway, I'll leave it at that and say that I'm glad things went well with you.
Chuck, you beat me to starting a thread about our chat. I too was very blessed to converse with you. As I said, the reason I asked to speak with you, is because your posts had a sublime kindness about them.
Having spoken with you edified me very much, and allowed me to see how easy it is to allow the anonimous {sp} nature of the internet interfere with true fellowship.
Our conversation now leaves me with the blessing of counting you as a friend. Praise God for that.........In Brotherly Love............b
ChuckI don't know the man, all I know is what I readthat he has posted and to me it leaves a lot out there. All his post that I have read from him there is no love in them at all. It comes across if you don't beleave as I do you are headed to hell and He has no use for you. I am glad you were blessed by the phone call maybe it is just the way he word things because it will drive young Christain away and they need to be feed the most.
just my 2 cents
Chuck;
I must be wrong. I thought this was our old buddy from Maryland that I had a conversation with. No love, no respect, no spiritual understanding, wanted to do all the talking and no listening, and didn't have anything to say about sublime kindness at that time. Must be a different fellow.
Chuck;
I must be wrong. I thought this was our old buddy from Maryland that I had a conversation with. No love, no respect, no spiritual understanding, wanted to do all the talking and no listening, and didn't have anything to say about sublime kindness at that time. Must be a different fellow.
Same person Snooky. The difference is, in our conversation I had to rebuke you right off the bat forinsisting that your salvation was basedon what you called your ability to "speak in tongues". After that you became angry, and beside yourself when I refused to tell you God's Name; suggesting that you needed to first grow in maturity , and to leave your religous teachings to understand the Name of God.
My question is, have you grown any???....Have you figured out God's Name yet????
Bill's phone call
