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Old 11-01-2006, 05:44 PM   #1
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God Almighty affirms: "I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God." Again, in Isaiah 48:12, God said: "I am he; I am the first and I am the last," and God said this right after His pronouncement that "I will not yield my glory to another" . Christ's use of this title in Revelation 22:12-13 was undoubtedly intended to be taken as a claim to be God Almighty. No other conclusion is acceptable.




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Old 11-01-2006, 05:59 PM   #2
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Ha ha your logic is at error.
were it is said," God Almighty "it then only referees to Jehovah
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Old 11-01-2006, 06:59 PM   #3
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Ha ha your logic is at error.
were it is said," God Almighty "it then only referees to Jehovah


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Old 11-01-2006, 07:32 PM   #4
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Silly Rabbit The verses I am referring to Cat are:

Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

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Old 11-02-2006, 04:11 PM   #5
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For the Jews in that day, Christ was describing Himself in a way they would have no problem understanding. Tho the letters Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet, John recorded the Book of Revelation for Jewish readers who were also familiar with the Hebrew language and alphabet. And therein lies the significance of Christ's claim. In Jewish thinking, a reference to the first and last letters of an alphabet (aleph and tau in Hebrew) was regarded as including all the letters in between, and came to represent entirety.

When used of God (or Christ), the first and last letters express eternality and omnipotence. Christ's claim to be the Alpha and the Omega--like God Almighty's claim in the Old Testament--is an affirmation that He is the all-powerful One of eternity past and eternity future.


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Â*God Almighty affirms: "I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God." Again, in Isaiah 48:12, God said: "I am he; I am the first and I am the last," and God said this right after His pronouncement that "I will not yield my glory to another" . Christ's use of this title in Revelation 22:12-13 was undoubtedly intended to be taken as a claim to be God Almighty. No other conclusion is acceptable.

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Add to that fact that He said, I AM, which IS Jehovah God!!!!! THe Pharisees knew it, and were ready to stone Him for claiming to be equal to God.
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True or false?
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am like and equal to him, ye shall die in your sins.

True or false?
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Are we to believe that Jesus is like him?
Or are we to believe that
Jesus is him?

If Jesus is not, "I am", what God is he?
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Snooky--read it again--again. I said that He is the greatI Am. You are so quick on the draw that you don't spend enough time to even comprehend the post. True or false---the Pharisees did react in this fashion? True or false, Christ did claim to be Jehovah God? For me, it is true,anfdthe Pharisees clearly heard Him as well--that is why they were so enraged--and that is what I said the first time.
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Isaiah 41
4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isaiah 42:8I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Isaiah 43
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?
25 I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.

Isaiah 44
6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Isaiah 45
5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.
20 ¶ Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,

Isaiah 51
12 I, even I, am he that comforteth you: who art thou, that thou shouldest be afraid of a man that shall die, and of the son of man which shall be made as grass;
13 And forgettest the LORD thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor?
15 But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name.

Hosea 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

I repeat If Jesus (Yeshua) Is Not God you are still in sin.

When God said in the old testament "IAm The First and The Last" It was spoken in Hebrew therefore it is not Iam The alpha and the omega but rather Iam The The "Aleph And the Tav", Noting that the letter Tav in the Old Hebrew it is a cross shape or like a T, it has more significance in hebrew.
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