To obey the laws of government placed..

smokeman · 10-27-2006, 04:54 PM

Yesterday on the this forum was brought up about speed limit...I never really thought about it until today at 75mph on I80 speed limit is 65...I thought about what was said that God wants us to obey the laws...I slowed down to 65 and locked it....I was thinking,If our government does not obey by Gods laws,abortions,homosexuals and I am sure there are many more that our governments and states allow to happen...After about 10 minutes of poundering on this at 65mph,I said screw this,Hit it down to 75 and locked it...I thought if they are not going to obey Gods law and allow these things to continue,then why should I obey this speed limit one???It is drilled in my head that they don't obey God and prevent these things from happening then why should I obey them...I do my best to follow the bible myself and quite often fail on the little things....Would you obey someone who is against Gods words???

Chuck7 · 10-27-2006, 05:04 PM

Yesterday on the this forum was brought up about speed limit...I never really thought about it until today at 75mph on I80 speed limit is 65...I thought about what was said that God wants us to obey the laws...I slowed down to 65 and locked it....I was thinking,If our government does not obey by Gods laws,abortions,homosexuals and I am sure there are many more that our governments and states allow to happen...After about 10 minutes of poundering on this at 65mph,I said screw this,..
Hit it down to 75 and locked it...I thought if they are not going to obey Gods law and allow these things to continue,then why should I obey this speed limit one???It is drilled in my head that they don't obey God and prevent these things from happening then why should I obey them...I do my best to follow the bible myself and quite often fail on the little things....Would you obey someone who is against Gods words???

We are not supposed to compare ourselves with others. Paul calls those kind of people fools. Christians are to serve God from the heart. As the song goes.."though none go with me still I will follow." The path to life is the narrow road. Wide is teh highway to destruction..it is also the easiest road. Many are they which go in there at. Stay on teh narrow road my dear friend. Keep your focus on Jesus and what He would do.
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Soilarch · 10-27-2006, 05:47 PM

Smokeman, if you're much of a reader you might find a book called "Original Intent" by David Barton interesting. He studies the lives of the Founding Fathers and the Consitution (Sounds boring I know, but the cool thing is that he demonstrates that this country WAS founded on Godly principles by God fearing men. Something I'm well aware our history classes to NOT teach). To the question, David was under the leadership of Saul. Saul started out as a good king, ordained by God. He wasn't that way by the time David came into the picture. Yet David, knowing Saul did not follow God, remained under his leadership because he had been anointed by God. I can tell I'm doing a horrible job or portraying this but do you get the picture? Kinda? We will not have perfect leaders (Saul, U.S. Congress) but we are still to obey unless doing so would have us violate God's Will.

I guess what I'm saying is just because our law makers don't follow God...God still placed us under them and we should honor His decision in that.

Another book that deals almost entirely with learning to deal with imperfect leaders is a book called "A Tale of Three Kings" by Gene Edwards I believe. Its a short novel and is a fun read if nothing else. I highly recommend it to anyone/everyone. The "original intent" won't hold your interest though unless its something you are already interested in.

What I like about Barton's book is that he uses original documents only. If it wasn't written by a founding father or to a founding father he dismisses it. He's done his homework and makes a solid arguement. America was indeed founded on the principles of Christianity and seen as such a nation by others. If you want some excerps (sp?) I can give post some this weekend.

Sylvan · 10-28-2006, 04:59 AM

smokeman,
I fear you are just ratioinalizing. Just looking for an excuse to drive the speed you want. Using your logic one doesn't need to obey any law. Ofcourse that would includethe laws that protect your right to worship as you please. Fortunately welive in a country where there is rule of law. If you don't agree with the laws in place you don't just ignore them, but rather work within the law to see that it is changed. Anything else is anarchy. IMO, the ONLY time its ok to violate the law is when there is a higher moral principle at stake. To use an extreme example, you see a child drowning in the public resevoir and the sign says "city ordanace, absolutely no swimming". Of course it's the right thing to do to violate the law and save the child. Speeding just because you want to get where you are going a little faster just doesn't cut it in my book and I don't believe it does in God's book either.

smokeman · 10-28-2006, 06:55 AM

Is it written in the bible as a law that we must obey all of mans made laws?????
And does it say give to csars what is his also????If csar makes a law and we break it and get fine for it and pay it..Did we not give to csars whatis his for his law and made it allrright...This is not one of the 10 commandment laws now...

Leafrivermac · 10-28-2006, 09:57 AM

Well, on my last trip home from the mountains on I 59 I sure saw a lot of sinners out there. I passed a lot of them that were doing at least 80mph.[X(][8D]