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Old 09-17-2006, 03:32 PM   #1
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These are the verses of Scripture demonstrating that Jesus is Jehovah that I promised you.

1. Isaiah 40:3 prophesied that a voice in the wilderness would cry, "Prepare ye the way of the Lord" (Jehovah); Mathew 3:3 says John the Baptist is the fulfillment of this prophecy. Of course, we know that John prepared the way of the Lord Jesus Christ. Since the name Jehovah was the sacred name for the one God, the Bible would not apply it to anyone other than the Holy One of Israel; here it is applied to Jesus.

2. Malachi 3:1 says, "The Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant." This was fulfilled by Jesus, whether the literal Temple or the temple of Jesus" body is meant (John 2:21).

3. Jeremiah 23:5-6 speaks of a righteous Branch from David- a clear reference to the Messiah- and names Him "THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS." (See also Jeremiah 33:15-16.) In other words, Jesus is "Jehovah Our Righteousness."

4. Isaiah said, speaking of Jehovah, "His arm brought salvation" (Isaiah 59:16), and "his arm shall rule for him" (Isaiah 40:10). Isaiah 53:1-2 describes the Messiah as the revelation of the arm of the Lord. Therefore, Jesus the Savior is not another God, but an extension of Jehovah in human flesh to bring salvation to the world.

5. Isaiah prophesied that the glory of the Lord would be revealed to all flesh (Isaiah 40:5). Since Jehovah said He would not give His glory to another (Isaiah 42:8; 48:11), we know He could only fulfill this prophecy by revealing Himself. Indeed we find in the New Testament that Jesus had the glory from the Father (John 1:14; 17:5). He is the Lord of glory (1 Corinthians 2:8). When Jesus comes again, He will come in the glory of the Father (Mathew 16:27; Mark 8:38). Since Jesus has Jehovah"s glory, He must be Jehovah.

6. Jehovah said, "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I" (Isaiah 52:6). Yet we know Jesus is the One who declared the Father, manifested the Father"s name, and declared the Father"s name (John 1:18; 17:6; 17:26). Jesus declared the Lord"s name (Psalm 22:22; Hebrews 2:12). Thus, He must be Jehovah.

7. The Lord said, "That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear" (Isaiah 45:23). Paul quoted this verse of Scripture to prove that all shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ (Romans 14:10-11). Paul also wrote, "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow" (Philippians 2:10).

8. Zechariah offers convincing proof that Jesus is Jehovah. In the passage beginning with Zechariah 11:4, "the Lord my God said, "So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver." In Zechariah 12:10 Jehovah stated, "They shall look upon me whom they have pierced." Of course, it was Jesus who was sold for thirty pieces of silver, and who was pierced (Mathew 26:14-16; John 19:34). Zechariah 12:8 says with reference to the Messiah, "The house of David shall be as God." Zechariah also wrote, "The Lord my God shall come, and all saints with thee" and describes Him battling against many nations and stepping foot on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:3-5). Of course, we know Jesus is the One coming back to the Mount of Olives as King of kings and Lord of lords to war against the nations (Acts 1:9-12; 1Timothy 6:14-16; Revelation 19: 11-16).

9. When Paul, the educated Jew, the Pharisee of Pharisees, the fanatic persecutor of Christianity, was stricken on the road to Damascus by a blinding light from God, he asked, "Who art thou, Lord?" As a Jew, he knew there was only one God and Lord, and he was asking, "Who are you, Jehovah?" The Lord answered, "Iam Jesus" (Acts 9:5).

10. Psalm 68:18 depicts a scene in which Jehovah ascends on high and leads captivity captive, yet we know Jesus ascended and led captivity captive. In fact, Ephesians 4: 7-10 applies this prophecy to Jesus.

11. Revelation 22:6 says, "The Lord God of the Holy prophets sent his angel" to John, but verse 16 says, "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you."

Somewhere I have many more passages of Scripture identifying Jesus with the one Jehovah God. I should have a list of verses that describe Jehovah in certain ways paired with verses that describe Jesus in the same ways, so they further prove that Jesus is Jehovah. Sorry for the long post, theres just so much proof.
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Old 09-17-2006, 04:26 PM   #2
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Found some more:it did'nt post well but is still in order. I need help on lists.[:@]


Jesus Is Jehovah


Jehovah Jesus

Title Scripture Title Scripture

1.Almighty Genesis 17:1 Almighty Revelation 1:8
2. I AM Exodus 3:14-16 I Am John 8:58
3. Rock Psalm 18:2; 28:1 Rock 1 Corinthians 10:4
4. Horn of Psalm 18:2 Horn of Luke 1:69
Salvation Salvation
5. Shepherd Psalm 23:1 Good Shepherd, John 10:11
Isaiah 40:10-11 Great Shepherd, Hebrews 13:20
Chief Shepherd 1Peter 5:4
6.King of Glory Psalm 24:7 Lord of Glory 1Corinthians 2:8
7. Light Psalm 27:1;
Isaiah 60:19 Light John 1:4-9;
John 8:12;
Revelation 21:23
8. Salvation Psalm 27:1; Only Acts 4:10-12
Isaiah 12:2 Salvation
9. Lord of Psalm 136:3 Lord of Revelation 19:16
Lords Lords
10. Holy One Isaiah 12:6 Holy One Acts 2:27
11. Lawgiver Isaiah 33:22 Testator of
The First
Testament
(the Law)
12. Judge Isaiah 33:22 Judge Acts 10:42
Micah 5:1
13. First and Isaiah 41:4; Alpha and Revelation 1:8;
Last 44:6; 48:12 Omega, 22:13
Beginning
and Ending,
First and Last
14. Only Savior Isaiah 43:11; Savior Titus 2:13
45:21; 60:16
15 Giver of Isaiah 44:3; Giver of John 4:10-14;
Spiritual 55:1 Living Water 7:38-39
Water
16. King of Isaiah 44:6 King if Israel, John 1:49,
Israel King of Kings Revelation
19:16
17. Only Creator Isaiah 44:24; Creator of John 1:3;
45:8; 48:13 Everything Col. 1:16
Heb 1:10
Acts 7:52
18.Only Just Isaiah 45:21 Just One Acts 7:52
God
19 Redeemer Isaiah 54:5; Redeemer Gal. 3:13;
60:16 Rev 5:9
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:15 PM   #3
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and which one of these Scriptures is supposed to prove what you say to be true?
Jesus is an agent acting to Jehovah's beneficent.
what you should do now is look up the Scriptures that dis prove your concept.just a hint if you even find one, then your supposition it wrong.
to illustrate Jesus is know to be the first of Jehovah creations.
jehovah exested long before the word (or the one we now know as jesus)

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"Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. 23From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. 24When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains, when there were no springs heavily charged with water. 25Before the mountains themselves had been settled down, ahead of the hills, I was brought forth as with labor pains, 26when as yet he had not made the earth and the open spaces and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land. 27When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, 28when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be strong, 29when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth, 30then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time, 31being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men.
jesus also gave all credit to jehovah even saying
If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.

jesus was sent and he said
, A slave is not greater than his master, nor is one that is sent forth greater than the one that sent him
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:21 AM   #4
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John 1

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning.

Nope, he's been there from the beginning. Cataway, the scriptures I use are from God's Word - the Bible. Were did your verses come from?
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:36 AM   #5
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Nope, he's been there from the beginning. Cataway, the scriptures I use are from God's Word - the Bible. Were did your verses come from?

He seems to be getting them from the six man translating committe of N.H. Knorr, F.W. Frantz, A.D. Schroeder, G.D. Gangas, and M. Henschel. These six men are responsible for the Watch Tower Bible Tract and Society commentary that they replaced the Bible with.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:41 PM   #6
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Cat, I could'nt find the verses you posted, would you please give me the book and chapter your refering to.
But no matter really. The only verse I found remotely close to any you posted was: Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Some more you might like are:
Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
To understand these verses you have to realize the dual nature of Christ. You have to distinguish the deity of Jesus (the Father), from the humanity of Jesus (the Son).
All of these above scripture indicate that the man could do nothing of Himself but recieved power from the Spirit within Him. The flesh was subject to the Spirit.
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Old 09-18-2006, 06:28 PM   #7
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Nope, he's been there from the beginning.no he's been here since his beginingCataway, the scriptures I use are from God's Word - the Bible. Were did your verses come from? from the bible . here, look an see for your self

Proverbs 8:22-30(King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

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22The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;


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He seems to be getting them from the six man translating committe of N.H. Knorr, F.W. Frantz, A.D. Schroeder, G.D. Gangas, and M. Henschel. These six men are responsible for the Watch Tower Bible Tract and Society commentary that they replaced the Bible with.
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Cat, you had me scratching my head wondering where that one came from. My bad, it came from the last place I would have looked . .the KJV. My apologies.
However, the proper way to view wisdom in the Bible is to regard it as an attribute of God . . . .part of His omniscience. He used wisdom in creating the world (Psalm 136:5; Proverbs 3:19; Jeremiah 10:12). Just as man's wisdom is not a different person from himself, so God's wisdom is not a different person from God. Wisdom is something that God possesses and something that He can bless humans with.

If you are determined in applying these verses to Christ literally rather than as a literary personification of wisdom then you think Christ is a woman? You would have to because in the Proverbs wisdom is personified as a woman. Example: 1:20-33, 9:1-6, and also the verses you posted if you go all the way back to the beginning of chapter 8.
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this may come as a bit of a surprise to you but there are no female
angles.all are spoken of "as sons of god."
tho i do know of a place in the bible were to be a woman refers to being submissive.
but the Proverb is in deed speeking of the one we know as jesus
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Old 09-18-2006, 07:36 PM   #10
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do you see how nisely it all fits together? look and see

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,
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