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Old 08-16-2006, 06:49 AM   #1
 
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Since God's Word has shown us His utter hatred of divorce, and how it points to the worlds unwillingness to forgive trespass, now let us examine God's Word as it points to Marriage between man, and woman, as being the very picture of Eternal Salvation that He promises the Holy Church. It is my prayer that some will come to the knowledge that our marriages to our spouses are to be the very picture of the Marriage between Jesus, and His Bride, and that since His Marriage to the Church is Promised to be eternal, then so our marriages to one another, are to reflect this.

Perhaps the best place to begin is in Genesis, where God states that it is not good for man to be alone, thus He declares He will give Him a "help meet". In the very same way, The Church was Created by God to be the Bride of Jesus Christ, to be an object of His Eternal Love, and Affection.

In verses 21-24 we see God Create the woman out of the same flesh as man, and then Proclaim that the two are now one flesh. In the same way, the Children of God are born. They are born of the Spirit of the Lord, and by that rebirth, they are made one with Christ, and Promised Eternal protection, the same way a husband protects his wife for all their days upon the earth.

These Scriptures are but a fraction of the Scriptures that point to God's Love of Eternal Marriage between Himself, and the Church, and the live long marriages between man, and wife. We will examine more as God permits


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Old 08-16-2006, 11:14 AM   #2
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Dapoppy,
I agree with your stand on marriage because it is based on Gods word. Yet we are all yet in our fleshly bodies and do still sin in various ways. Just as some are unable to stay true to their marriage vows and stray and commit adultery there are others that are unable to forgive them.

I wonder about the people out there that were divorced for various reasons while still lost. Than while still lost remarry and even start a family.
And than God saves them. Many churches may except them as members but may not allow them to teach or serve as deacons. They become second class citizens. I welcome your thoughts on this.

Dapoppy, I am also curious when you mention church in your posts. Are you referring to a local assembly of baptized believers or are you speaking of a Universal/Invisible church?
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Old 08-16-2006, 12:46 PM   #3
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Many churches may except them as members but may not allow them to teach or serve as deacons. They become second class citizens.
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Old 08-16-2006, 04:00 PM   #4
 
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Dabow, let me first thank you for asking some really awesome questions. I'll try, Lord willing to answer them with His Wisdom.

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Dapoppy,
I agree with your stand on marriage because it is based on Gods word. Yet we are all yet in our fleshly bodies and do still sin in various ways. Just as some are unable to stay true to their marriage vows and stray and commit adultery there are others that are unable to forgive them.
I agree totally. I also understand that True Believers can be carried away into fleshly sins. However, as True Believers, you and I would no more try and justify our robbing a bank, any more than we would try and justify divorcing our wives. Both actions stand opposed to God's Word.


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I wonder about the people out there that were divorced for various reasons while still lost. Than while still lost remarry and even start a family.
And than God saves them. Many churches may except them as members but may not allow them to teach or serve as deacons. They become second class citizens. I welcome your thoughts on this.
That is the exact reason that I teach {according to my charge} that the religous churches today are dead, and lacking the Wisdom to recognize that the Blood of Christ washes away all sin, including Divorce.

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Dapoppy, I am also curious when you mention church in your posts. Are you referring to a local assembly of baptized believers or are you speaking of a Universal/Invisible church?
Great Question. Since Scripture proclaims that Water Baptism is NOT linked with salvation, and that the present day Local Congregations are under the headship of satan, My inferences to the Church speak of the True Believers who are Baptized Spiritually. However, this no no way diminishes the fact that True Believers do , at times that Please the Lord, come together for fellowship.

It is just that at this time in God's Plan, the True Believers are scattered abroad, driven out of the local congregations that are under the dictate of Satan, as Matthew 24:15-16 states.
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Old 08-17-2006, 05:46 AM   #5
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That is the exact reason that I teach {according to my charge} that the religous churches today are dead, and lacking the Wisdom to recognize that the Blood of Christ washes away all sin, including Divorce.


Great Question. Since Scripture proclaims that Water Baptism is NOT linked with salvation, and that the present day Local Congregations are under the headship of satan, My inferences to the Church speak of the True Believers who are Baptized Spiritually. However, this no no way diminishes the fact that True Believers do , at times that Please the Lord, come together for fellowship.

It is just that at this time in God's Plan, the True Believers are scattered abroad, driven out of the local congregations that are under the dictate of Satan, as Matthew 24:15-16 states.
dear God, help us on both accounts....

according to YOUR charge?...from whom? proven how? THAT rings alarms.

True Believers...as in Jehovahs Witness 244K "chosen" ?.....as in Jim Jones "believers" ?... the scripture you refer to isn't supported,today, byDaniels' prohecy....the desolation hasn't happened yet... you Sir, must be of a assembly of believers that differ in their interpretations of His word...... your Scriptural references are out of context, and unsupported.
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according to YOUR charge?...from whom? proven how? THAT rings alarms.
If by "whom" and "how" you are asking me if some seminary, or religous gave me a ministerial position based on my obedience to their doctrines, then I must answer no.
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True Believers...as in Jehovahs Witness 244K "chosen" ?.....as in Jim Jones "believers" ?...
No, by True Believers, I mean those who were chosen by God to His Children, and the Objects of His Salvation, those who have hearts, and minds reconciled to Him.


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the scripture you refer to isn't supported,today, byDaniels' prohecy....the desolation hasn't happened yet...
That is because many today are under a "strong delusion", and they cannot see that Satan now sets at the head of all denominational churchs.


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you Sir, must be of a assembly of believers that differ in their interpretations of His word...... your Scriptural references are out of context, and unsupported.
I belong to group that is lead by the Faith of Jesus Christ. Our trust is not in the religions, nor teachings of man.
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:25 AM   #7
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i can appreciate that your adamant about this subject ,we're all that way just on different subjects . in my faith we know that there will be those that will be resurrected back to life .are you saying that if a mans wife were to die and be brought back to life that she would still be married to that man? i know what i feal is the right answer and what others believe as well .i just wonder what you think.
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i can appreciate that your adamant about this subject ,we're all that way just on different subjects
My adamacy means nothing. The Scriptures speak for themselves.


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. in my faith we know that there will be those that will be resurrected back to life
What do you mean "your" faith? Since the Bible proclaims that the Only One Who is Faithful is Jesus, and that His Faith is the Only Faith, please explain to us "your" faith?


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.are you saying that if a mans wife were to die and be brought back to life that she would still be married to that man? i know what i feal is the right answer and what others believe as well .i just wonder what you think.
Christian woman only die in the flesh. Their soul is eternal
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Old 08-17-2006, 09:36 AM   #9
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lol good answer ,if you dont know just answer a different question.
how ever your right beingadamant does mean nothing.and yes the Scriptures do speak for them selves.
and if you dont know the answer to the question then I'm not surprised ether.
the question is. is she still considered married if she lives again?

you do believe Jesus brought people back to life dont you ?
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lol good answer ,if you dont know just answer a different question.
My question is serious. When you pointed to "your faith" that threw up a red flag. You must understand that while I am not acusing you , it has been my experience that satan will send in the troops so to speak, ie people who are under false gospels to fight his battles. Something in your post leads me to believe that you belong to group that takes it's knowledge from the teachings of man. Would you care to devulge the name of the group you belong to?


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how ever your right beingadamant does mean nothing.and yes the Scriptures do speak for them selves.
andyou dont know the answer to the question then I'm not surprised ether.
Again, the Christian soldier is very deliberate in making comments. We first indentify the enemy, before bringing them into submission.


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if the question is. is she still considered married if she lives again?
Again, a wife is married in the first live, as she is in the Eternal Life. Why does this confuse you.

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you do believe Jesus brought people back to life dont you ?
Jesus raised up the physically dead in order to point to the power of Holy resurrection. While Jesus surely rose Lazerus from physical death to be a sign to Israel, Lazerus surely died again in the physical, in order to become able to Live in the Eternal Jerusalem. One must understand what True Life is, before understanding how it isRaised back up.
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