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Old 07-28-2006, 12:57 PM   #1
 
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Why Does Satan Hate Israel ?


As Israel is chastised by the entire world for its tough response against Hezbollah rocket attacks from Southern Lebanon, some Christians want to know what this has to do with them. They wonder if God may be finally finished with Israel after all their years of stiff necked defiance and refusal to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. They see the United Nations, the EU, the Vatican, and other religious organizations calling for a ceasefire. Only the United States thus far has stood behind Israel"s right to defend itself against kaytusha rocket attacks against its civilians in the northern Galilee and HaifaI wrote a similar article, last year ("A Promise is a Promise") when people were concerned about Israelis leaving their settlements in Gaza. Look what has happened. They left southern Lebanon in the year 2000 and were promised that the militias like Hezbollah would be disarmed. They left Gaza last year hoping that a land for peace strategy would work. Both withdrawals failed, as Gaza and southern Lebanon have both erupted in violence. I did a radio interview last week and was asked why the Jews and Muslims could not just get along. The reason is that Satan hates the Jewish people, especially the Israelis, and there would not be peace until the Prince of Peace returns (Isaiah 9:6).

Why is this? Paul summarized it best in Romans 9:4-5 "Israelites to who belongs the adoption as sons and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all"

God used His first born chosen people, the Jews (through the Patriarchs, Prophets, and Temple) to bring His word, the Law and morality, to the earth and then sent His Son in a Jewish body to save the world from its sin. Satan hates God and His word and he hates God"s chosen vessel, the Jews, from who came Jesus Christ. Satan used the Babylonians and the Persians and the Assyrians and the Hittites and the Egyptians to try and destroy this royal bloodline by destroying the Jews, but he failed. Then after Christ died on the cross for our sins, he continued to try and see that the scattered Jews would not return to their homeland and reestablish their Jewish nation. He infiltrated the Church and helped instigate the Crusades and the Inquisition and the pogroms and the Holocaust in order to destroy the Jews so they could not create another Israel. Why was he so hell-bent on preventing that from happening? Because Jesus Christ is to return to the Mount of Olives (Zech 14:4) to rule and reign from Jerusalem for a 1000 years from the rebuilt Temple.
Recently he has infiltrated the Mosque and is using Islam to try and destroy the Jews and Israel. While once it was the Crusader and the Grand Inquisitor and the Nazi, today it is the Imam and the Islamic Cleric and the President of Iran who have called for the destruction of Israel and the Jews.
Unfortunately, however, Satan is still alive and well in the body of Christ spouting such lies from the pits of hell as "replacement theology", that the church has somehow replaced Israel. It is Satan trying to show that God"s word is a lie. He will of course fail but many souls will be lost in the process, Muslim as well as Jew as well as so called Christian.
What Christians fail to realize, is the fact that if God is finished with Israel then maybe He might be finished with them as well. Ludwig Schneider wrote "Christians note the veil over the eyes of Jews that binds them from seeing the Messiah, but when non Jews don"t believe that God"s promises to Israel are still valid today, there is a veil over their hearts which encompasses all the nations. Whether Jew or Gentile, these veils must be removed."
The Abrahamic Covenant gave ownership of the land of Canaan unconditionally to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It was an everlasting possession (Genesis 17:7-8). That means forever. This was reiterated when an Angel of the Lord said; "I brought you up out of Egypt and led you into the land which I have sworn to your fathers and I said I will never break my covenant" (Judges 2:1). God keeps His promises that He confirmed to Israel as an everlasting covenant (Psalm105:6-11) and He says that the offspring of Israel will cease from being a nation when the fixed order of the sun, the moon and the stars departs (Jeremiah 31:35-37).

If Israel ceases to be a nation on that land, then what was Paul speaking of when he said of the Jews that the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable (Romans 11:29)? Jesus Himself said that all the things talked about in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled. It means the Temple must be rebuilt (Daniel 9:27). The House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem must recognize Him that they have pierced (Zechariah 12:10). That will never happen if Jerusalem is ceded to the Palestinians. Paul in his Second Letter to the church at Thessalonica said that the antichrist will reign from the Temple (2Thess.2:4). The Temple will not be rebuilt under Palestinian control.

And finally Paul wrote that someday all Israel will be saved (Romans 11:26). This will not happen if Israel no longer exists

What does all of this mean to Christians? If God promised Israel that land and reneges on His promise, then He might renege on your promise of salvation as well. Paul wrote to Titus about "the hope of eternal life which God promised ages ago" (Titus 1:2). God cannot lie and His promises are faithful (Hebrews 10:23). Thus if God keeps his promises to Israel and the land, then He will keep His promises to you about eternal salvation. Watch God working with Israel and rest assured that He will keep working with you because a promise is a promise. And like He did not forsake a stiff-necked rebellious Israel, God will not turn His back on us. God loves Israel and Satan hates Israel.

God says that anyone that touches Israel touches the apple (pupil) of His eye (Zechariah 2:8). That means that anybody that messes with Israel sticks his finger in God"s eye. Why does Satan hate the Israelis? He hates them because God loves them in spite of their unbelief and one day is going to set up His kingdom in their midst for a thousand years as He gives them a new heart and a new spirit (Zechariah 12:10 , Jeremiah 31:33).

If You are A cHristian or so called Christian and you Hate Israel, then I suggest you aline yourself with the muslims, God Will destroy you as well.
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As Israel is chastised by the entire world for its tough response against Hezbollah rocket attacks from Southern Lebanon,


No, they are chastised because they used the kidnapping of 2 soldiers at the border, by a fringe group, to justifymissle attacksagainst Lebanon. Then, when they get attacked back, they cry foul.

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some Christians want to know what this has to do with them.


True Christians already know that the geographic "Israel" has no bearing on them, because they do not represent the Chosen of God. The Chosen of God is the Holy Church. Prior to the Cross, The House of Israel was simply a flag bearer of Gods Church.

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They wonder if God may be finally finished with Israel after all their years of stiff necked defiance and refusal to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior.


Jesus summed it up perfectly when He said "it is finished". With those words He ushered in a new era, and a New Covenant in which all men who were of God could be their own preists, and be free of the law that brought death.


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They see the United Nations, the EU, the Vatican, and other religious organizations calling for a ceasefire.


While these groups are worldly in nature, there is no doubt the Children of God within them, and it is the Child of God who calls for restraint, while the children of satan clamour for more war, and vengence.

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Only the United States thus far has stood behind Israel"s right to defend itself against kaytusha rocket attacks against its civilians in the northern Galilee and Haifa


and the US does this because of it's political, and finacial interests in keeping a foothold in the Middle East. The USA no more represents the Children of God, than geopraphical Israel does.

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They left southern Lebanon in the year 2000 and were promised that the militias like Hezbollah would be disarmed. They left Gaza last year hoping that a land for peace strategy would work. Both withdrawals failed, as Gaza and southern Lebanon have both erupted in violence.


When carnal men, compete for worldly holdings, violence is always the outcome.

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I did a radio interview last week and was asked why the Jews and Muslims could not just get along. The reason is that Satan hates the Jewish people, especially the Israelis,


No, Satan hates God, and the Church. While the Church is indeed made up of people from all races, including the Jewish race, the Church is NOT in anyway represented by geographical Israel, who serve a different God, than the Church serves. Like the Muslims, the Judeans use their religion to justify hate, and violence, and racism. It is important to never mistake them for Gods Church.


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and there would not be peace until the Prince of Peace returns (Isaiah 9:6).


This Scripture speaks of The Lord's return for His Church, who is under seige. The wars that geographical Israel fight in, do NOT represent the war against Gods People, because the only Nation that the Bible calls Chosen, and Holy is the Church...1Peter 2:9


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Why is this?


The deception of sin

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Paul summarized it best in Romans 9:4-5 "Israelites to who belongs the adoption as sons and the glory and the covenants and the giving of the Law and the temple service and the promises, whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all"


These Scriptures are Paul's pointing out the physical nature of Jews, and in no way points to a locked in Salvation for them. If we place these Scriptures in context, we see this, and also see that Paul proclaims that being a Jew, in no way makes one "Israel"

--------Romans, 1:3-6--------->"For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christfor my brethren, my kinsmen, according to the FLESH: Who are Israelites to whom pertainith the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the services og God, and the promises:Whose are fathers and of whom are concerning theFLESH Christ came, who is over ALL, God blessed for ever, Amen. Not as though the Word of God hath taken none effect, For they are NOT all Israel, which ARE of Israel.


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God used His first born chosen people, the Jews (through the Patriarchs, Prophets, and Temple) to bring His word, the Law and morality, to the earth and then sent His Son in a Jewish body to save the world from its sin
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Absolutely. Before Israel God used Adam and Eve to represent His Church, then He used Noah to represent it, then He used Abraham. Then He used Israel, however all these representors share one thing in common, and that is they all represent His Holy Church which was established before the foundations of the World...Eph 1:4

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Satan hates God and His word and he hates God"s chosen vessel, the Jews, from who came Jesus Christ.


Agreed, but the House of Israel ceased representing Gods People at the Cross. The Church was given a New Covenant, and the law was nailed to the Cross. It is the Church that Satan hates. When the House of Israel bore it's flag , Satan was at war with them. Today, physical Israel has joined satan in his assault on the True Israel, the Holy Church.

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Satan used the Babylonians and the Persians and the Assyrians and the Hittites and the Egyptians to try and destroy this royal bloodline by destroying the Jews, but he failed.


That is because He was dealing with Gods People, the Holy Church, who were represented by Israel at that time. Satan was bound for failure.

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Then after Christ died on the cross for our sins, he continued to try and see that the scattered Jews would not return to their homeland and reestablish their Jewish nation.


While the True Believers, that is the Church are indeed scattered by Satan's seat in the false Churches,....Matthew 24:15, we must understand that in Christ there are no Jews, or Gentiles, therefore the "scattered" are simple the Brethren, however it is understanable how race baiters, and children of the stranger will try and link salvation to ones race.

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He infiltrated the Church and helped instigate the Crusades and the Inquisition and the pogroms and the Holocaust in order to destroy the Jews so they could not create another Israel.


Satan was standing well established in Jewish synagouges of Judaea, at the time of Christ. When Jesus told these devils that He could rebuild a destroyed temple in 3 days, they, being of a depraved mind thought in the physical, just as those today are depraved into thinking that a physical "Israel" must be built to usher in salvation. While many cults, and synagouges of Satan may teach this, Jesus proclaims that He will build the New Jerusalem for His Children, the Blessed Bride.

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Why was he so hell-bent on preventing that from happening? Because Jesus Christ is to return to the Mount of Olives (Zech 14:4) to rule and reign from Jerusalem for a 1000 years from the rebuilt Temple
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This Scripture speaks of the Last Day, which represents the Lord'swrath upon the unsaved people, and the establishment of His Eternal Kingdom. Sadly those without eyes cannot see this.

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Recently he has infiltrated the Mosque and is using Islam to try and destroy the Jews and Israel.


He has also infiltrated the synagouges, and dead churches where false doctrine, and denial of Jesus is rampant. Satan will use anyone to attack the Blessed Church, but he will fail.

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While once it was the Crusader and the Grand Inquisitor and the Nazi, today it is the Imam and the Islamic Cleric and the President of Iran who have called for the destruction of Israel and the Jews.


Such things are simply the wars, and hatred of men. It does not make the Jewish people pious. Whem millions of Black men were enslaved for centuries, it did not make them pious. Nor were native Americans, and Australian aboriginals who were slaughtered wholesale. 30 million Asians were slaughtered during the 1970's, but that did not make Asians pious. All men, including Jews bear the shame of murder. While false teachers teach that their bloodline can erase this, that salvation is granted by race, Jesus teaches different. He teaches that Salvation is based upon His Blood.

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Unfortunately, however, Satan is still alive and well in the body of Christ spouting such lies from the pits of hell as "replacement theology", that the church has somehow replaced Israel.


Satan is alive in places that teach that Jesus is not Lord, and ones race will grant them Salvation. The Church has replaced nothing, for the Church as been before the world was. No race, or religion can claim that.


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It is Satan trying to show that God"s word is a lie. He will of course fail but many souls will be lost in the process, Muslim as well as Jew as well as so called Christian.


Agreed, only those who know Jesus Christ as Lord, and that Salvation is Eternal will be saved.


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What Christians fail to realize, is the fact that if God is finished with Israel then maybe He might be finished with them as well.


God's work is totally with the Church. God no longer works through nations, but rather through His Church

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Ludwig Schneider wrote "Christians note the veil over the eyes of Jews that binds them from seeing the Messiah, but when non Jews don"t believe that God"s promises to Israel are still valid today, there is a veil over their hearts which encompasses all the nations.


Again, Israel, ie the True Israel is the Church, and the promises have never changed.



Whether Jew or Gentile, these veils must be removed."
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The Abrahamic Covenant gave ownership of the land of Canaan unconditionally to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It was an everlasting possession (Genesis 17:7-8). That means forever
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In your confusion you see this in the physical. Just as the Jews expected Jesus to be a physical King, and kill of the enemy Rome, you see with the same eyes, and think the Kingdom of God, and His promised land has map co-ordinates.


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This was reiterated when an Angel of the Lord said; "I brought you up out of Egypt and led you into the land which I have sworn to your fathers and I said I will never break my covenant" (Judges 2:1).


The Exodus was a picture of Gods Salvation for His Church. The "land sworn" was the Kingdom of Heaven, the "New Jerusalem" . The decieved look for that Kingdom here, and will kill if need be, to secure it.


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God keeps His promises that He confirmed to Israel as an everlasting covenant (Psalm105:6-11) and He says that the offspring of Israel will cease from being a nation when the fixed order of the sun, the moon and the stars departs (Jeremiah 31:35-37).


Again this speaks of His Blessed Church. However the decieved see this as a call to set up an earthly nation, and to kill if neccessary to obtain it.


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If Israel ceases to be a nation on that land, then what was Paul speaking of when he said of the Jews that the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable (Romans 11:29)?


The Jews who fight, and kill for land, like those they fight do so because they are not given the Spiritual eyes to see. To them, everything is fleshful, and Satan has decieved them into thinking that way. Thankfully the True Child sees Gods Promise of Heaven as the Promised land, and rebuilt Israel, and they are at peace in that, and will conquer it with the Sword of God, without harming the flesh of the enemy.


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Jesus Himself said that all the things talked about in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled. It means the Temple must be rebuilt (Daniel 9:27).


The temple was rebuilt, on the First Lord's day. Blind men do not see this.


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The House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem must recognize Him that they have pierced (Zechariah 12:10). That will never happen if Jerusalem is ceded to the Palestinians.


Such teaching places God's proclaimed Will, in the hands of man to decide, as if God's plan could be altered.


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Paul in his Second Letter to the church at Thessalonica said that the antichrist will reign from the Temple (2Thess.2:4). The Temple will not be rebuilt under Palestinian control.


The temple referes to the false churches in this very day.


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And finally Paul wrote that someday all Israel will be saved (Romans 11:26). This will not happen if Israel no longer exists


Israel, the Blessed Church, made up of Believers in Jesus will be saved. Not to be mistaken with physical nations who deny Jesus, and follow Baal

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What does all of this mean to Christians? If God promised Israel that land and reneges on His promise, then He might renege on your promise of salvation as well.


God promised the Church an Eternal Kingdom, a New Jerusalem, and an eternal Salvation to boot. The Brethren look up for this. The unsaved try to kill people for it, here on earth.


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Paul wrote to Titus about "the hope of eternal life which God promised ages ago" (Titus 1:2). God cannot lie and His promises are faithful (Hebrews 10:23). Thus if God keeps his promises to Israel and the land, then He will keep His promises to you about eternal salvation
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Eternal Salvation, and the Promise of a New Homeland go hand in hand.


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Watch God working with Israel and rest assured that He will keep working with you because a promise is a promise.


God works with His Church, not physical nations that deny Him, and persecute His People.


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And like He did not forsake a stiff-necked rebellious Israel, God will not turn His back on us. God loves Israel and Satan hates Israel.


God loves His Church, and satan hates both God, and Church, and will use false people who claim to know God, that is Muslims, and Jewish Judaeans to persecute them, but the Church will soon stand on top of them, as God crushes them

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God says that anyone that touches Israel touches the apple (pupil) of His eye (Zechariah 2:8). That means that anybody that messes with Israel sticks his finger in God"s eye.


While Satan would have the Brethren believe that the True Israel is a group of People who not only poke God in the eye by denouncing His Son as Saviour, but they also persucute His Beloved Church. Naturally Satan would have such a group of people given special recognition. Like Muslims, these people profess to knoe the "true god", yet both groups deny the only True Lord, Jesus Christ. Both sides war with each other, and kill each other over the religous lands, and rituals. Both sides are pictures of mans utter depraved state.

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Why does Satan hate the Israelis? He hates them because God loves them in spite of their unbelief and one day is going to set up His kingdom in their midst for a thousand years as He gives them a new heart and a new spirit (Zechariah 12:10 , Jeremiah 31:33).


However, Jesus said to a Jewish Pharisee.......he that belietheth not, is already condemned. Satan's ploy is to convince men that non believers are Children of God.

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If You are A cHristian or so called Christian and you Hate Israel, then I suggest you aline yourself with the muslims, God Will destroy you as well.


If one is a True Christian, they will easily recognize that the True Israel, is the very Body of Christ to which they belong, and that present day Israel, and Muslims will always hate Gods Church, which is the Israel of the Bible, the apple of His eye. We know that we are True Jews in Spirit!!!


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