Bibles

[dkhamner]

When I first was saved my first bible was a King James study bible. I got a NIV from my grandpa shortly after and my dad gave me a New Living Translation (NLT) study bible for my birthday last year. I have since bought another NLT that use most of the time.

The church that I attend, the pastor preaches from the KJ/Amp bible. I don't have problem with that but I'm starting to see a difference. Some of the verses that hit hard in the KJ bible don't have the same umph in the NLT. I love reading and studying my NLT but am starting to get a desire to break out my old KJ study bible, as a cross reference. I've done a little side study on the different bible translations so I have an understanding. Whatare your thoughts on the different bible translations?

[Rebel Hog]

The New King James Bible: Counterfeit

[Rebel Hog]

Here's a sampling of the required changes:
Genesis 2:18: The NKJV ought to make Hillary Clinton proud: "And the Lord God said, It is not good that man should be alone; I will make a helper COMPARABLE TO HIM"

Genesis 22:8: One of the greatest verses in the Bible proclaiming that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh: "God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering:" The NKJV adds that little word "for": "God will provide for Himself the lamb for a burnt offering" And destroys the wonderful promise! Where'd they get their little "for"? From the NASV!

Genesis 24:47: The old KJV reads: "I put the earring upon her face". But the NKJV has different plans for beautiful Rebekah: "I put the nose ring on her nose". Where did it get the ridiculous idea to "cannibalize" Rebekah? Just take a peek at the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

Ezra 8:36: The KJV reads, "And they delivered the king's commissions unto the king's lieutenants. . ." The "much clearer" NKJV reads, "And they delivered the king's orders to the king's satraps. . ." Who in the world thinks "satraps" is "much clearer" than lieutenants? The NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV - they do! They put in the same "much clearer" word![/i]

Psalms 109:6: removes "Satan". (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV).

Matthew 7:14: change "narrow is the way" to "difficult is the way". There's nothing "difficult" about the salvation of Jesus Christ! Jesus says in Matt. 11:30, "For my yoke is EASY, and my burden is light." THE EXACT OPPOSITE! Boy, you talk about a contradiction!

Matthew 12:40: change "whale" to "fish" (ditto NIV) I don't guess it matters (what's the truth got to do with it?), the Greek word used in Matthew 12:40 is ketos. The scientific study of whales just happens to be - CETOLOGY - from the Greek ketos for whale and logos for study! The scientific name for whales just happens to be - CETACEANS - from the Greek ketos for whale!

Matthew 18:26 & Matthew 20:20: The NKJV removes "worshipped him" (robbing worship from Jesus) (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

Mark 13:6 & Luke 21:8: removes "Christ" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

John 1:3: change "All things were made BY him;" to "All things were made THROUGH Him" (NIV, NRSV, RSV)

John 4:24: change "God is a spirit" to the impersonal, New Age pantheistic,"God is spirit" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

John 14:2: (NKJV 1979 edition) change "mansions" to "dwelling places" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

John 14:16: change "comforter" to "helper"(refers to Holy Spirit) (NASV)

Acts 4:27, 30: change "holy child" to "holy servant" (refers to Jesus) (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

Acts 12:4: change "Easter" to "Passover" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

Acts 17:22: changes "superstitious" to "religious" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

Acts 24:14: change "heresy" to "sect" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

Romans 1:18: change "hold the truth" to "suppress the truth" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

Romans 1:25: change "changed the truth" to "exchanged the truth" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

Romans 5:8: change "commendeth" to "demonstrates" (NIV, NASV)

Romans 16:18: change "good words and fair speeches" to "smooth words and flattering speech" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)

1 Cor. 1:21: change "foolishness of preaching" to "foolishness of the message preached" (ditto NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV) There's nothing foolish about the gospel of Jesus Christ. Unless you're not saved! 1 Cor. 1:18 says: "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish FOOLISHNESS. . ." I wonder where that leaves the translators of the NKJV, NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV?

1 Cor. 1:22: change "require" to "request" (NASV)

1 Cor. 6:9: removes "effeminate" (NIV, NRSV, RSV)

1 Cor. 9:27: change "castaway" to "disqualified" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

2 Cor. 2:10: change "person of Christ" to "presence of Christ" (NASV, NRSV, RSV)

2 Cor. 2:17: With all the "corruptions" in the NKJV, you'd expect 2 Cor. 2:17 to change. IT DOES! They change, "For we not as many which CORRUPT the word of God" to "For we are not, as so many, PEDDLING the word of God" (ditto NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

2 Cor. 5:17: change "new creature" to "new creation" (NIV, NRSV, RSV)

2 Cor. 10:5: change "imaginations" to "arguments". Considering New Age "imaging" and "visualization" is now entering the church, this verse in the "old" KJV just won't do. (NIV, RSV)

2 Cor. 11:6: change "rude in speech" to "untrained in speech" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

Gal. 2:20: omit "nevertheless I live" (NIV, NASV, NRSV, RSV)

Phil. 2:6: (NKJV 1979e.) change "thought it not robbery to be equal with God" to "did not consider equality with God something to be grasped". (robs Jesus Christ of deity) (NIV, NASV, RSV)

Phil. 3:8: change "dung" to "rubbish" (NIV, NASV, NRSV)

1 Thess. 5:22 change "all appearance of evil" to "every form of evil" (NASV, RSV, NSRV)

1 Timothy 6:5: The NKJV changes "gain is godliness" to "godliness is a MEANS OF gain". There are NO Greek texts with "means of" in them! Where, oh where, did they come from? Care to take a wild guess? YOU GOT IT! The NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV!

1 Timothy 6:10: The NKJV changes "For the love of money is the root of all evil:" to "For the love of money is a root of all KINDS OF evil". The words "KINDS OF" are found in NO Greek text in the world! Where did they get them? Straight from the NIV, NASV, NRSV!

1 Tim. 6:20: change "science" to "knowledge" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

Titus 3:10: change "heretic" to "divisive man" (NIV)

Hebrews 4:8 & Acts 7:45: "Jesus" is changed to "Joshua". (NIV, NASV, RSV)

2 Pet. 2:1: change "damnable heresies" to "destructive heresies" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

1 John 3:16: remove "love of God"; (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

1 John 5:13: The NKJV reads: "These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may CONTINUE TO believe in the name of the Son of God." They add "CONTINUE TO" without any Greek text whatsoever! Not even the perverted NIV, NASV, NRSV and RSV go that far! A cruel, subtil (see Genesis 3:1) attack on the believer's eternal security!

Rev. 2:13: change "Satan's seat" to "Satan's throne" (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)

Rev. 6:14: "Heaven" is changed to "sky" in (NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV)


AND THAT DOESN'T SCRATCH THE SURFACE OF ALL THE CHANGES!
The NKJV removes the word "Lord" 66 times!

The NKJV removes the word God 51 times!

The NKJV removes the word "heaven" 50 times!

In just the New Testament alone the NKJV removes 2,289 words from the KJV!

The NKJV makes over 100,000 word changes!

And most will match the NIV, NASV, RSV, or RSV!

And Thomas Nelson Publishers have the audacity to claim in an ad for the NKJV (Moody Monthly, June 1982, back cover), "NOTHING HAS BEEN CHANGED except to make the original meaning clearer."


The New King James is a COUNTERFEIT!

It's NOT NEW! The changes are already in the NIV, NASV, NRSV, or RSV!

And it's certainly NOT true to the 1611 King James Bible!

[dkhamner]

All I can say is WOW!!!

In what I have studied, that was never appearent. Thanks for that info!

[Rebel Hog]

It's NOT NEW! The changes are already in the NIV, NASV, NRSV, or RSV!

And it's certainly NOT true to the 1611 King James Bible!

[Chuck7]

I don't have a big problem with thediffernt versions.. I'm very familiar with the King James ..so when I read a verse that doesn't quite sound right I go back and compare to either the 1611 King James or the 13th century Wycliff. I do like reading the more modern translations for the Old Test. When I was a new Christian after reading the KJV.I switched to the Living Bible for about a year. That helped me quite alot, I've since then been through Bible college and take advantage of all the study helps available on line.

These days it's not who is reading the right version...it's getting people to read their Bibles period. That in itself takes quite a bit of self control.

[Rebel Hog]

ORIGINAL: Chuck7

These days it's not who is reading the right version.

Sorry bro., I don't agree, but then again it's evryone's prerogative to read and study what ever version they want. To each his own.

[PKnTX]

Despite all the posts on this subject I've never really been
led one way or the other myself. KJ Authrorized is pretty
much what I've been around my whole life. I was given
a New Living Bible as a teenager by a well meaning (and
respected by me) lady as a thank you gift and found it
to be helpful. I'm sure some could easily pick it apart as
far as the translations go but that can be said for even
the KJ by those that read in the original languages the
books where consolidated from. Seem to recall Alex
stating as much (not trying to throw him under the bus,
I appreciate this and other inputs by him). I guess my
take on it is if we're going to consider the Bible as the
unaltered word direct from God and so protected from
deviation by his will, can we really narrow that belief to
only ONE translation? And if so, is it only the King James 1611?
I have a hard time believing that myself.
Could any of the widely accepted versions really lead a
person to hell? I guess that's the big question.

God bless us all,
PK

[motor]

Sorry bro., I don't agree, but then again it's evryone's prerogative to read and study what ever version they want. To each his own.
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I agree bro. Reb..they can read whatever they want but they need to be very careful to study what they read..I have read the KJV. for 70 years and have read some in other versions and none can compare to the inspired Word of God or makes it any clearer or easier to read than the beautiful language of the King James..folk, sin is still sin so tell it like it is, don't sugar coat it like some versions do..of course i guess it makes some people feel better when they don't read about the blood and they leave out Jesus name..well He's still here and one day we will all stand before him and he will be our judge..as Taz would want me to say, that's my opinion..

[Alex The Hawk]

As A hebrew Speaker I can Honestly say that the Old KJV is the best Transliteration available.
I don't like any of this new editions.
I have sat for hours and read things in hebrew and read them in english transliterations and the KJV is by far the best.

But Keep in mind it is only a transliteration and not a translation, In the original hebrew you receive a better perpective of what is being said.

if you spoke spanish then the "Nacar Colunga" is the best all around transliteration ,supassing any english editions.

Shalom