havinbeenhealed

[dochendrix]

I have been away for a while and I have been reading some of your posts. I'm just currious- what do the following passages mean?
Hebrews 6:4
4It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
Hebrews 10:26
26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d] and again, "The Lord will judge his people."[e] 31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

[havbinhealed]

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

Here is a responce a brother of mine gave some time again, when asked that question, which addresses it perfectly.......


"This appears to say that a true believer can fall away and get into a situation where it is impossible to return to the Lord. That is very frightening.
A lot of people, at one time or another, felt they had become a child of God, but they fell back into sin and their old life. When they read this passage, they think, "Uh oh. I blew it. There is no way that I can ever become saved."
First of all, in these verses, God is not talking about someone who had become saved. In the same context, God says in verse 9:

But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.


In other words, God is talking about someone who has been brought very close to salvation. For example, he might have been a member of a church for a long time, he might have been brought up in a Christian family, and he might have tried to live like a Christian for a long time, and so he enjoyed a lot of blessings, but he never became saved.
Finally, he got tired of "making like" or "acting like" a Christian because it was uphill work all the time. He got tired of trying to do things God's way, when in his whole personality, he wanted to go his own way. So, he decided, "I have had it. I do not want this any more."
The question is: "Has he come to the point that he can never return to the Lord?" That is, "Has he come to the point that he can never repent and cry to God for mercy? Has he committed some kind of unpardonable sin?"
If we had only these verses, we could easily arrive at that conclusion, but we must remember the rule that we always read the Bible in the light of the Bible. We compare Scriptural things with Scriptural things.
In Isaiah 55, God is talking about people like that, who "have tasted of the heavenly gift." For example, ancient Israel was just like that; they had been given every blessing, and they followed God's commandments for awhile, then they fell away. This happened again and again, and yet God came to them, and therefore, He comes to any one of us who is in the condition of having fallen away. God says in Isaiah 55:6-7:

Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

My, my, that is so wonderful to hear! Even though it looks like we have crossed the line and been disobedient too long, nevertheless, as long as we are alive, there is the possibility of salvation. We can still cry to God for mercy. God's longsuffering, mercy, and patience with us is so wonderful. It is way beyond our human comprehension. "

[dochendrix]

Gal. 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

Rom. 11:17-22
17If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in." 20Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.

Rev. 22:19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

Gal. 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Cor. 9:27 No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

Matt: 6:15 But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

Luke 12:41-46
42The Lord answered, "Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45But suppose the servant says to himself, 'My master is taking a long time in coming,' and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
47"That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked

1 Cor. 15:1-2 1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

Colossians 1:22-23 21Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. 22But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation"” 23if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

Hebrews 3:6, 14 6But Christ is faithful as a son over God's house. And we are his house, if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast. 14We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.
Rev. 2:10 10...Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life.

2 Peter 2:20-22 20If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.

[dochendrix]

I gues it would be great if all we had to do was be baptised and have our sins washed away- but we are comanded over and over again that we must live as children of the light. If we choose to stop following the light, or revert back to our sinful selves- it would be better that we never new.

[Rebel Hog]

ORIGINAL: havbinhealed

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

Here is a responce a brother of mine gave some time again, when asked that question, which addresses it perfectly.......


"This appears to say that a true believer can fall away and get into a situation where it is impossible to return to the Lord. That is very frightening.

No one on here has said that![:'(]