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Old 07-23-2006, 09:52 AM   #1
 
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(WASHINGTON, DC) (July 17, 2006) Developments in the Middle East permit only one conclusion: it is time for the United States to "cut and run" from Israel, not Iraq. The Israeli government has become the enemy of every American, and endangers every American with its suicidal policy of terrorizing the Middle East. Truly, the leading terrorist state, rogue state and failed state in the Middle East is Israel.
First, a timeline to the truth. President Bush and many world leaders have repeated the big lie that Hamas and Hezbollah "provoked" the latest war. That simply isn"™t true. Palestinians voted in a free and fair election for a Hamas administration. Hamas was a party to a cease-fire.
Bush and Israeli leaders began a campaign of terror,
intimidation and assassination to undo a free and democratic election. Israel has committed genocide against the Palestinian people as a whole, and particularly against the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip. The Gazans who attacked Israeli military installations and took an Israeli soldier prisoner were only defending themselves in a war that Israel has continued relentlessly for decades. They only acted after decades of mealy-mouthed peace efforts by world leaders and the hypocrite-in-chief American President (insert name of your choice).
Israel responded to the military attack by launching a terror campaign against Palestinian civilians.
Hezbollah reacted in sympathy with Hamas, and sought to take the pressure off the besieged Palestinians. Who can condemn them for that? Hezbollah also attacked military targets. Once again, Israel responded by launching terror attacks against women and children, as the latest gruesome photographs now establish. Bottom line: Israel, not Palestinians, is the aggressor. Israel is the occupier.
Second, Ralph Peters is a columnist for the New York Post and author. We have disagreed on virtually everything concerning Iraq. I was right and he was wrong. But today he made some observations with which I agree. Peters writes that "Israel picked the wrong fight" by attacking innocent, civilian Lebanon. He's right.
Peters and I also disagree in that I once took a military oath of enlistment to defend the U.S. Constitution, and only the U.S. Constitution. Peters apparently took a loyalty oath to both Israel and the United States. That's a mistake.
I am not pro-Israel or anti-Israel, not pro-Arab or anti-Arab. I have only one loyalty, one priority, and one polestar: the interests of the United States of America and the U.S. Constitution. That's why Peters and I often part company: he wants to sympathize with Israelis; I only want to argue the vital interests of the American people and no one else.
Now, why is Israel the worst terror state, rogue state and failed state in the Middle East? Let"™s look at the evidence.
First, terrorism. The state of Israel was created by terrorists, who terrorized the United Nations into partitioning the Palestinian Mandate. The nation was conceived and born in terrorism. (OK, so was the United States, but then that's another story.) Since its founding, Israel has maintained a policy of relentless terrorism against the lawful inhabitants of Palestine.
Israel could buy peace tomorrow by ending the occupation and agreeing to live in peace with its neighbors. But Israeli leaders don"™t want peace any more than some Palestinians do. Both sides would have to yield their dreams to reality, and admit they might not get all they want in a final settlement. So the extremists on both sides, Israelis and Palestinians, find it more convenient to labor on with warfare.
Second, rogue state. Israel is a rogue state. Once again, Ralph Peters: "[The United States] can influence Israel. But we don't control Israel." I opposed the war in Iraq, but many Americans supported president Bush in 2003. Many people, including high elected and appointed officials, thought that by attacking Iraq they would open an avenue to peace. Today hundreds of thousands of Americans are in harm's way in the Middle East implementing President Bush's policies.
By launching it's terror war against Gaza and Lebanon,
Israel has all but destroyed President Bush's Iraq policy. It won"™t be long before the Iraqi people are rising against their American occupiers, and we face a situation similar to the Israeli occupation of Palestine. There was never any chance that Bush's misguided and misinformed policies would succeed; but even if there was a slight chance, Israel's terrorism destroyed that remote possibility.
Despite the fact that American taxpayers subsidize Israel's warmongering, while Israeli investors take money out of that country and invest in New York real estate, Israel has betrayed President Bush. (Israeli real estate investors are voting with their dollars concerning the future they see for the Israeli state.) In other words, Israeli leaders have repaid Bush's loyalty with the treachery of an unprecedented campaign of terror against unarmed civilian populations.
Finally, failed state. Israel is a failed state. U. S. Senator Charles Schumer was quoted this weekend as saying Israel was created as a response to the Holocaust. Why should innocent Palestinians have been forced to pay for Europe's atrocities? Palestinians did not murder a single French Jew or German Jew or Polish Jew.
It is often said that Shakespeare gives some of the best lines to fools. The prime Minister of Iran has said some awful, foolish things about the Israelis. But he has also stated a truth that becomes more accepted in the world with each passing day: "Why make Palestinians and Arabs pay for the crimes of others, by allowing Israel to punish Palestinians and Arabs as payback for the European Holocaust?"
Today there is no prospect that Israel can ever be a nation in the normal sense of living in peace with its neighbors. Israel is too strong to be defeated, and the Arab world is also too strong to be defeated. Neither side can defeat the other. But Israeli dreams of superiority, hegemony and victory are just that: pipe dreams.
It is time for the United States to put America first, and
abandon Israel. Then maybe the Israelis will be forced to make peace.
President Bush's promise to shed American blood to defend Israel, while Israelis milk Israel to invest in New York, will not find the support of any rational American (but many craven politicians). The Israeli experiment has been tried, and failed. A state that can only exist by terrorizing its neighbors, by incinerating helpless and unarmed women and children, is a failed state in the truest sense of the word.
I realize that the Arab world is also populated by egregiously failed states. I do not stand up to defend the Mubarek dictatorship, or the insanity that was Iraq, or the Saudi conspiracy, or Libya under Ghadaffi. But none of these nations continues to prey on its neighbors the way Israel does. They are all failed states, but only one endangers America: Israel.
The Bush administration has made a great deal of Democratic Party dithering over whether to "cut and run" in Iraq. I'm not sure we can. Bush & Co. have made it impossible to just pull out of Iraq. But I am certain the president should announce that he is revoking a commitment to shed American blood for Israeli real estate investors, and that as of now Israel is on its own. Cut and run. Then, and only then, can a new day dawn in the Middle East, and can Americans expect to live in a more peaceful (but still dangerous) world.
I don"™t wish Israelis harm. But I do wish they would stop harming their neighbors. And if we can"™t stop them from being a terrorist state, at least we can admit Israel is a failed state and withdraw our encouragement and support for Israeli atrocities.

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Thid is not a political forum fool. I will say outright the article is full of lies.I don't like lies. What your relegious beliefs are are your business. But,This belongs on political forum. A fourth grader packing a full deck could answer this post.The huntingnet has reached a new low.


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Old 07-23-2006, 12:10 PM   #3
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Israel is not a terrorist state, I pray for th eblessing of Israel almost daily. The minute we stop supporting Israel we have sealed our doom. God's Word tells us that blessed are they that bless Israel.
God bless Israel 1,000,000 times and give her victory over all of her enemies.



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Old 07-23-2006, 12:19 PM   #4
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well that answers the ? onthemend must be smoking a lot of dope if he beleave his own post.

May the blessing of the Lord fall on his people and there land and may he stand with Isreal for they are his people.And for this we give thanksunto Lord almighty. Amen
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Abba Forgive them for they not know what they say, and who they have taken up as their enemy.
Have mercy on their lost souls.
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The minute we stop supporting Israel we have sealed our doom. God's Word tells us that blessed are they that bless Israel.
God bless Israel 1,000,000 times and give her victory over all of her enemies.
Chuck, sadly you too have been mislead by false teachers into thinking that the geopraphic "Israel" that is less than 60 years old, is the True Israel of the Bible. Israel, the true Israel is the Church, not a collection of present day Jewish people who denounce Jesus Christ.

Chuck, your comments are the very reason I post here. You are ignorant to the fact that you are stating utter nonsense, that has has no Biblical foundation, and the only reason you do it is because it is simply what you have heard many others, who are also mislead , say.

Do you think that repeating a falsehood, or a heresy will make it true. Chuck, I implore you, flee your false denomination. How many years were you decieved into thinking that you could loose your salvation???. Wasn't it wonderful to come to an understanding that your salvation is eternal , when you listened to the teaching of one who was hated here on this forum?.

Gods Blessings will be poured out on Israel Chuck, and the Israel He speaks of is His Holy Church. Please do not confuse hateful Jewish people with Gods people Chuck, for there is only one Blessed nation and that is the Holy Church. Do not allow these men to decieve you.

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Abba Forgive them for they not know what they say, and who they have taken up as their enemy.
Have mercy on their lost souls.
Pray this for the Jewish people who are the enemies of Christ Jesus, that He may take Mercy on those souls He chooses, that they might become members of the Holy Nation, the Church of Jesus Christ.
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Thid is not a political forum fool.
It is tied to religion, so may I ask you to refrain from your name calling.

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I will say outright the article is full of lies.
Anything that suggests the opposite of what political war mongers like is seen as a lie by them, but in reality the Truth is known.

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I don't like lies.
Now who is lieing?. Your entire worldview is built upon lies.

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What your relegious beliefs are are your business.
My, how kind of you

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But,This belongs on political forum.
I disagree

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A fourth grader packing a full deck could answer this post.
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The huntingnet has reached a new low.
If you mean by the glee, and support over the wars of vengence in theMiddle East, then I agree.

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I'm not going to spend a lot of time on you. I do laugh though as I have seen you call people names for a couple of weeks now,

This is just one reason among many many others.


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"œHowever, there is no legal and legitimate state called Israel"œ.


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Connect the dots. It doesn't get much more simple than that.

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Chuck, sadly you too have been mislead by false teachers into thinking that the geopraphic "Israel" that is less than 60 years old, is the True Israel of the Bible. Israel, the true Israel is the Church, not a collection of present day Jewish people who denounce Jesus Christ. You are half right and half wrong. Wrong....Israel has been a country ever since God called her back in Geneisis. They were scattered abroad throughout the world. God promiced in his Word to briing them back together and He did. Most of them do not believe Jesus was teh Messiah...UNTIL the fulness of the Gentiles .{Last Gentile to be saved} Then God shall open up Israel's eyes.
Yes you are right.The True Spiritual Israel will be the Born Again of Israel and the Born Again of the Gentiles. And no I haven't been sadly misled.I'm probably nearly as anti church as you. The difference is.I don't judge a man by his church prefernece ..I judge them as Jesus told me too. Matthew 7 "By thier fruits.ye shall know them" That makes it real easy.

Chuck, your comments are the very reason I post here. You are ignorant to the fact that you are stating utter nonsense, that has has no Biblical foundation, and the only reason you do it is because it is simply what you have heard many others, who are also mislead , say. What can I say. Onthe mend I try to make it a point to make sure each sentence I utter can be back upped by scripture. I am not a parrot. I have seen the Lord Jesus Christ with my eyes open. I've fasted many days and have memorized books of the Word . You got me pegged wrong my friend.I'm no parrot and can not be manipulated by no man ."For one can not serve God and man." It won't work. I've have not joined a church in years. However: I've seen plenty of saints in churches. They are out there as lights to be an example ot the weak or a standard to the pretenders.

Do you think that repeating a falsehood, or a heresy will make it true. Chuck, I implore you, flee your false denomination.Third time
I DO NOT BELONG TO ANY DENONMINATION>How many years were you decieved into thinking that you could loose your salvation???. Wasn't it wonderful to come to an understanding that your salvation is eternal , when you listened to the teaching of one who was hated here on this forum?.

Gods Blessings will be poured out on Israel Chuck, and the Israel He speaks of is His Holy Church. Please do not confuse hateful Jewish people with Gods people Chuck, I've been to Israel my friend. I preached at the tomb where our Christ arose. Again ..you cannot classify all people in a group.People are individuals. One step off the plane when you are in Israel ..and you will quickly sense the awesome presense of our Lord. He watches over them .I'd be real careful what i say about Israel. Real careful.for there is only one Blessed nation and that is the Holy Church. Do not allow these men to decieve you.
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