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Old 05-02-2006, 01:47 PM   #1
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Where did it come from? Anybody know? Think its bad to read?
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:56 PM   #2
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What is the Book of Enoch and where did it come from?
Enoch was the grandfather of Noah. The Book of Enoch chapter 68:1 "And after that my grandfather Enoch gave me all the secrets in the book and in the parables which had been given to him, and he put them together for me in the words of the book of the parables." This makes it possible for the Book to have survived the flood as its not too hard to accept that Noah would have taken his Great Grandfathers writings with him onto the ark.
The Book of Enoch was extant centuries before the birth of Christ and yet is considered by many to be more Christian in its theology than Jewish.
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The Book of Enoch is a title given to several works that are attributed to Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah; that is, Enoch son of Jared (Genesis 5:18). There are also three other biblical Enochs: the son of Cain (Gen. 4:17), the son of Midian (Gen. 25:4), and the son of Reuben (Gen. 46:9; Ex. 6:14). The last two are transcribed "Hanoch" in the modern translations.
Most commonly, the phrase Book of Enoch refers to 1 Enoch, which survives completely only in the Ethiopic language as far as we know. There are also 2 other books called Enoch, 2 Enoch (surviving only in Old Slavonic, c. 1st century; Eng. trans. by R. H. Charles (1896) [1][2]) and 3 Enoch (surviving in Hebrew, c. 5th-6th century[3].) The numbering of these texts has been applied by scholars to distinguish the texts from one another. The remainder of this article deals with 1 Enoch only.
Though many scholars consider the books of 1 Enoch to be pseudepigraphal, various groups, including the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and the Essenes, regard parts or all of 1 Enoch to be inspired Scripture. The currently known texts of this work are usually dated to Maccabean times (ca. 160s BC).
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Yea, I got the same google search you guys do too. But does any of you guys know anything about it. Like how is viewed from the Christian world? Why it didn't make it in the canon. Do too many biblical theologans put any wieght into it?
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I know a bit about it. I've read most of it. As far as I can tell it seemed legit to many of the early church fathers. It's quoted almost word-for-word in Jude and some parts of Peter elude to it. It didn't make it into the Hebrew Canon as far as I can tell. Augustine, Tertullian, Clement, and Justin Martyr all seemed to base the Genesis 6 account (sons of god) off of the fallen angels in Enoch. I actually think it was part of the Hebrew literature until 90 AD or something. I think I read that somewhere but it's not really clear to me.

As to why it got excluded I can only guess.

I think part of the reason it wasn't included in Scripture was because of its sources. I don't think they're too reliable. I think some part of Enoch was in the Dead Sea Scrolls which date to before Jesus by a few hundred years. Apparently Enoch held a little bit of weight, though most people say it's almost impossible that Enoch wrote it.

Of course, John the Beloved might not have written Revelation, Peter probably didn't write 1 and 2 Peter and Moses probably didn't write the whole Pentateuch.

Most Christians today view it as pseudepigraphal which means "false inscriptions" and look at Enoch as folklore, not as canonical truth.

A bunch of people (protestant) clump Enoch with the Apochrypha and many of the Gnostic gospels. Interesting reading, but taken with a grain of salt.
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Thanks for the info.
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There are two books of Enoch, One is the real one which is Teh Book of Enoch #1
Number two is an attempt to copy and add sometime in the year 600ad.

The Book of Enoch is required reading in Hebrew School and certainly in Rabbinical school.

The Catholics did not allowed it in the Christian canon ,due to its reference to the sons of God having offspring with human Women, Although enoch was an eye witness to this, and the reference is also found in Genesis Chapter 6.

I would recommend reading it but to mature christians.

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Not sure how much relation there is but found this info while researching another post of mine....under Affiliations...
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How would you all relate this to the current controversy over the book The Da Vinci Code? The author has drawn criticism for claiming that the early church was very selective in promoting or suppressing certain writings.
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How would you all relate this to the current controversy over the book The Da Vinci Code? The author has drawn criticism for claiming that the early church was very selective in promoting or suppressing certain writings.

I would certainly hope the early church was very selective in deciding was was to be canonized.

About the Da Vinci Code, I havent read it. I wont. There is probably some truth in it. All good lies have a healthy dose of truth included in them. There probably isnt any harm in watching it for entertainment, but sadly many will consider it to be true.
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