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Old 04-29-2006, 11:02 AM   #1
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Romans chapter Eight

vs.33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's Elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for sins.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecustion, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or swork?
36 As it is written,For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay , in all these things we are more than comquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, or things to come.
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Brothers and sisters, We don't have to let any one here or any where else stand around and tell us we can lose our salvation. This was written by Paul to christians, and if your a christian you can claim it also. You know when your saved the devil knows he can't have you cause your saved forever, but he will sure try and cast seeds of doubt in your mind.
So than who can charge Gods Elect?
Who can Condemn us?
Who shall separate us from the love of God?
Well this scripture is clear enough but some will still try and it will most likely be by someone who is not even sure of their own salvation
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It says who can separate us from the love of God , not what can separate us from God.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, or things to come.
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Does it say Sin ?

Why do Paul says if you go back to keeping the law as a means of salvation you have fallen from grace ?

How about the practice of sin or sinning willingly after receiving the truth.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:28 AM   #3
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Rom.8:30-39
[30] Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
[31] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
[32] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
[33] Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
[34] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
[35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
[36] As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
[37] Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
[38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
[39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:31 AM   #4
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This is true. Another thing I was thinking ..it really doesn't matter too much if one thinks he's saved or not. The man in Luke 18 didn't think much of himself and according to Christ he was justified.

Luke 18:13And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
14I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

For me...If working and striving is causing you to grow in your Christian walk,,,then so be it. If beleiving you are eternally saved is producing fruit..so be it. We will all have to give an account, NOt a real biggy. I've got Eternal Security friends and works friends. They are both Christains in my book.
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How about the practice of sin or sinning willingly after receiving the truth.

Amen brother!
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How about the practice of sin or sinning willingly after receiving the truth.

Amen..please answer the question guys. Are you still saved. ?
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Maybe this is the answer....

"Just An Ole Sinner Saved By The Grace Of God"
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Maybe this is the answer....

"Just An Ole Sinner Saved By The Grace Of God"
Yes Chuck,but that doesn't give me an affidavitto do what ever I want. I have to obey and be obedient to His commands!
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Totally Agreed Reb.
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It says who can separate us from the love of God , not what can separate us from God.

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, or things to come.
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Does it say Sin ?

Why do Paul says if you go back to keeping the law as a means of salvation you have fallen from grace ?

How about the practice of sin or sinning willingly after receiving the truth.
We are all still sinners. Christ died for all our sins, past, present, and future. Are you saying you don't willfully sin? If so you are mistaken. And by the way heaven will be full of sinners, all justified by the blood of Christ
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