Romans 8.........There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Yes it all about the "adopted", which are the gentiles.
the "chosen" are the Jews.
The Christians are called the elect not the chosen, the elect because they elected Christ.
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"Blessed is He who Comes in The Name of The Lord"
Yes it all about the "adopted", which are the gentiles.
the "chosen" are the Jews.
The Christians are called the elect not the chosen, the elect because they elected Christ.
Alex, it seems as though you have been once again mislead. In Pauls address to the Church, { The Church is a collection of Christians}, he professes that they were chosen by Jesus, before the foundation of the world.....Eph 1:4. In Peters First Letter, he points out that He is addressing the Elect, {The Elect are the Christians} in the 2nd verse of the first chapter, yet he calls the very same people, in the following chapter , verse 9, a CHOSEN GENERATION, and a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, and a HOLY NATION, a PECULIAR PEOPLE...........Do you know what is odd Alex???. The very same description Paul uses to describe the Elect, in His letter, is THE VERY SAME LANGUAGE that God uses to describe Israel to Moses in Exodus 19:5-6. For you see Alex, Israel is the Church, and the Church is Israel. Sadly this causes you to stumble because you seem to be intent on believing the teachings of men, rather than the Word of God.
In your human wisdom you fail to recognize that Israel is simply a picture of Gods Holy Church. You seem intent on seeking a physical circumcision for your righteousness. Sadly you cannot grasp the truth that you must be cut in the heart to become Gods Chosen .
Brother Snooky, Sometimes when I take the things folks do and say altogether and relate them one to another it just boggles my mind if I try to make sense out of it. I have found that my attitude is much better if I don't even bother.
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As The Bible says, those words were spoken to Israel first:
Exodus 19:3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Leviticus 20:22 Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, whither I bring you to dwell therein, spue you not out.
23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.
24 But I have said unto you, Ye shall inherit their land, and I will give it unto you to possess it, a land that floweth with milk and honey: I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people.
25 Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean.
26 And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.
That promise only can be claimed by gentiles as adopted sons of God, You are not Israel , you are part of Israel, you are a grafted wild branch, you are not the tree ,the tree is Israel.
That is my final take on this.
Shalom
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Brother Snooky, Sometimes when I take the things folks do and say altogether and relate them one to another it just boggles my mind if I try to make sense out of it. I have found that my attitude is much better if I don't even bother.
what you said here made me remember something that happened in a small convince store / gun shop.
four men were having coffee one morning
and a young woman walks in looks around then asks the clerk for some help she says that she wants some tampons and some duck tape.the men did just as you say taking the things folks do and say altogether and relate them one to another .they started laughing and she realized what she had said .i don't thing she ever came back . true story
That promise only can be claimed by gentiles as adopted sons of God, You are not Israel , you are part of Israel, you are a grafted wild branch, you are not the tree ,the tree is Israel.
That is my final take on this.
Shalom
its more like the elect are grafted in at the stump.
there are many in that group that are or were Jews but its not likely that they are of the majority
Gods Promise to the Elect
