"Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word, it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus; so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught."Luke 1:1-4
Luke begins by mentioning uninspired gospels by Christians, then the oral tradition of the apostles and concludes that scripture alone will allow Theophilus to know for certain what the truth is.
1 Cor 4:6 Jesus said, "upon this rock I will build My church" and Paul warned: "in building the church, do not exceed scripture!"
This is a problem for folks like Mqman, because he cannot understand the Bible without the help of his church leaders or the Holy Spirit. So He demands that God do for him a thing that God will not do for others.
GOD IS NOT A RESPECTOR OF PERSONS. HE LOVES US ALL!
I. The example of Jesus: Quoted scripture, never tradition:
A. Jesus defeated the three temptations of the Devil with, "it is written", not "I say". Mt 4:1-11
[ol][*]The Temptation of Jesus: Matthew 4:1-11. Three times Jesus was tempted by the Devil and each time Jesus replied exactly the same three dangerous words that defeated the Devil: "IT IS WRITTEN" Read it for yourself! If any one could have used Holy Spirit aided words, it was Jesus, yet he chose the only safe and sure way to defeat Satan: Scripture. Wejust wish that that Mqmanheld scripture alone in the same high regard![*]Calvinistshave simply not comprehended just how devastating it is that Jesus never appealed to his own authority in his 40 days temptation in the wilderness with the Devil.[*]Three times Jesus was tempted, three times Jesus replied, "It is written".[*]If oral tradition, or the authority of the church, ora special Holy Spirit unveiling of the truth was valid,then Jesus would have at least one time referred to oral tradition, or used himself as the authority, as the Catholics, Orthodox and JW's use the church organization as an authority.[/ol]
Trae
1. Is it possible for God, our Creator to communicate with us?
Ifso how? If not why not?
2. Can you tell us why Jesus always used Sctripture to answer?
And tell us why we should not follow His example?
3. Why in 1 Corinthians 1:18, did God inspire Paul to say that,
"it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that
believe." Instead of saying that it is by the enlightenment of the
Holy Spirit?
Goose, let me begin by first saying that I will answer your thread directed at me as gentle as I can, but never skirting the Truth, or mincing words to appease you. Part of me feels that my teaching here is a stumbling block to you, and that the more I teach, the more angered, and unsettled you will become as you see your religous traditions unravel. , but after prayer I feel that for the benefit of the Elect, it is fitting to answer your chages, so to my brothers here, pray for me to deal with this man in all humbleness, and gentleness...thank you.
Also let me say that I will not entertain, or answer any Scripture derived from any modern "translation", and will only respect the King James Bible as the Bible for English speaking people. My reasons are not open for comment now, so save your time, as no questions will be answered on the subject for the time being, in that I feel you have much more important issues holding you down. I will address direct concordance with the original manuscripts.
At this point I will spend some time with my wife, and pray for wisdom. I will return soon.
Part of me feels that my teaching here is a stumbling block to you, and that the more I teach, the more angered, and unsettled you will become as you see your religous traditions unravel.
Also let me say that I will not entertain, or answer any Scripture derived from any modern "translation", and will only respect the King James Bible as the Bible for English speaking people.
That's fine, I accept the KJV among the other translations. What if I put as many limits on our discussion as you do. We just wouldn't get anything discussed would we?
Lets see when was the King James version written? was'nt it 1600 something? wonder what version people respected before we had it? Also what makes the KJV the most perfect version?
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Mqman,
1. Is it possible for God, our Creator to communicate with us?
Ifso how? If not why not?
2. Can you tell us why Jesus always used Sctripture to answer?
And tell us why we should not follow His example?
3. Why in 1 Corinthians 1:18, did God inspire Paul to say that,
"it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that
believe." Instead of saying that it is by the enlightenment of the
Holy Spirit?
Mqman and the authority of Scripture...
That's it. Thanks.
