I am sure that most all of us that have posted on this site for the last few years will affirm that we CAN read and understand the Bible, because we believe that God CAN communicate with His creation. I'd like for you guys to read the statements below and either affirm that you agree with these statements, or say that you don't and list why you don't agree with them.Thanks guys!
Mqman, will you answer????
"Read and you will understand"Ephesians 3:3-5
[ol][*]"that by revelation there was made known to me the mystery, as I wrote before in brief. By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, which in other generations was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit" Ephesians 3:3-5[*]"For we write nothing else to you than what you read and understand, and I hope you will understand until the end" 2 Corinthians 1:13[*]"from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." 2 Timothy 3:15[*]"He read from the book before the square which was in front of the Water Gate from early morning until midday, in the presence of men and women, those who could understand; and all the people were attentive to the book of the law. ... They read from the book, from the law of God, translating [cf. Ezra 4:18] to give the sense so that they understood the reading." Nehemiah 8:3,8[*]"For the heart of this people has become dull, With their ears they scarcely hear, And they have closed their eyes, Otherwise they would see with their eyes, Hear with their ears, And understand with their heart and return, And I would heal them." Matthew 13:15 [*]"And the one on whom seed was sown on the good soil, this is the man who hears the word and understands it; who indeed bears fruit and brings forth, some a hundred-fold, some sixty, and some thirty." Matthew 13:23[*]"Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), Matthew 24:15[*]With the exception of 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus, all of Scripture is written to the Christian in general, not the leaders: Rom. 1:7; 1 Cor. 1:2 ; 2 Cor. 1:1 ; Gal. 1: 2 ; Eph. 1:1 ; Phil. 1:1 ; Col. 1:1; 1 Thess. 1:1; 2 Thess. 1:1 ; 1 Pet 1:1; 2 Pet 1:1; Rev. 1:4.[/ol]
RE: Who will affirm that we can understand the Bible?
We can, it just takes studying and leaving personal doctrines out of it. The reason there is so much debate isn't because of the scriptures, it's because of us. God is not the author of confusion. Man will twist, turn, skip over, reinterpret, etc. to "make" the Bible agree with what he chooses to believe, rather than choose to beleive what the Bible says.
Even those of us that have had some of the strongest disagreements can find common ground on some subjects--the threads on baptism have proven this.
Coincidentally, what I consider to be one of the main problems has come up a couple of times lately. Sometimes folks get hung up on what the Bible does NOT say, rather than focusing on what it DOES say. If we study what it does say, and follow that alone, we wouldn't have anything to worry about, and I beleive there would be a whole lot less disagreement.
Chad
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A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
RE: Who will affirm that we can understand the Bible?
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ORIGINAL: Tazman
Chad, you or some one you know understands the Bible in its entirety?
Bro. Taz, that's why one should study the bible and not just read the bible. No to bro.Traes question, I will admit that I don't fully understand it all and probably will never do, but will continue to study it to the day I am called.
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RE: Who will affirm that we can understand the Bible?
I believe each person will understand the scriptures according to;
1- The level of revelation he or she has received by the holy Spirit.
2- The level of education and understanding of the language he or she is reading the Bible.
3- How much time is spent in reading and meditating on the words he has read.
4-The Level of Holiness he or she has allowed the holy Spirit to inpart in His Soul and mind.
5- and understand that the bible is a Spiritual revelation, so it must be study in Spirit and Humbleness.
Shalom
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RE: Who will affirm that we can understand the Bible?
I believe each person will understand the scriptures according to;
1- The level of revelation he or she has received by the holy Spirit.
Amen
2- The level of education and understanding of the language he or she is reading the Bible.
Maybe but this isnot a big deal to me Alex.IMHO
3- How much time is spent in reading and meditating on the words he has read.
AMEN
4-The Level of Holiness he or she has allowed the holy Spirit to inpart in His Soul and mind.
Yes Jesus said "we would KNOW if we obeyed His word." Obedience is where we learn to know Him.
5- and understand that the bible is a Spiritual revelation, so it must be study in Spirit and Humbleness.
Amen
6. Those who continually disobey are carnal minded.They can not move on .
C7
RE: Who will affirm that we can understand the Bible?
Taz, I thought I replied already--guess my computer belched.
Anyhow, I said I don't know of anyone that's made the claim that they understand ever bit of it, nor have I thought to ask anyone--I have spoken with some men that have never had a problem answering a question using scripture.
If there are parts we are not meant to understand, then what are they for? If only those who have been touched by the Holy Spirit can understand, what good is it to the lost? How can anyone learn what is required of them to recieve salvation if they can't understand what they read? One of the requirements to accept salvation is to first hear the Word. The lost must first hear and believeGod's Word, but at the same time they cannot understand until they are saved, if ever? That makes no sense. Is this belief based on scripture, or?????
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Who will affirm that we can understand the Bible?
