Early Western native Christians?

hillbillyhunter1 · 04-07-2006, 09:35 PM

Generally,
How would you assume that early natives of remote western civilizations ( ie. Incas, Aztecs, Samoas and other pacific islanders, early native american indians etc, etc)or anymembers of some reclusive tribescame/come to know the lord? Those that lived in places that were never accessed by the bible or knew of the exact story of Christ?

Would you assume that some of them were "saved"? or not??

Thanks
hb

Rebel Hog · 04-07-2006, 09:46 PM

Here's a post by bro.Mac (Leafrivermac)

How the Gospel Came to Korea

Rebel Hog · 04-07-2006, 09:58 PM

The Roman Catholic Conquistadors in S.A, C.A. And Mexico.The American Indian, by reservation missionaries.

Alex The Hawk · 04-07-2006, 11:03 PM

For until the law, sin was in the world; but sin is not charged when there is no law. Romans 5:13

hillbillyhunter1 · 04-08-2006, 09:14 AM

So, if I'm hearing you guys right so far, you believe that early natives could not be saved unless they came in contact with a white man who was spreading the word.

If that is the case then practically whole civilizations were condemned to hell because they lived and died in a time where they were never exposed to any "manifest destiny types".

Is that what you're saying?

Because it doesn't seemreasonable that God would condemn people who never had a chance to be exposed to the truth (those that never met a white conqueror/missionary) does it? I mean if what you are saying is true then what chance for redemption did some have???

Thanks again

I always assumed that they (early natives) were either educated about "salvation" thru visions perhaps or lived their lives in a way that God intended although ignorant of the Biblical history because of the limits of communication of that time.

Rebel, you are the man, but no matter what, those early missionaries could have never reached all those living before the establishment of the "white christian culture"on this continent.

cataway · 04-08-2006, 09:38 AM

don't worryhillbilly there is yet a way for those long dead .
the bible speaks of the resurrection of the righteous an the unrighteous.
they will most likely be given the opportunity to prove there willingness
adhere to god's plan or they are to die a second time never receiving the full benefits of god's kingdom with Jesus as king over all the earth.

Alex The Hawk · 04-08-2006, 09:57 AM

For until the law, sin was in the world; but sin is not charged when there is no law. Romans 5:13

Those people that died not knowing God's law ,cannot be condenmed by God's law ,for they had no knowledge of right or wrong, they will be judge by God at the resurrection, Geeeez I guess I finally agreed with cat on one point,LOL

hillbillyhunter1 · 04-08-2006, 10:12 AM

That makes sense to me Alex. So then you would be asserting that all those who died ignorant of the bible would go to heaven?? Is that right??. In that case, sounds like they had it easy (which is fine if that's the way it is). I like that thought though.

Cat,
you seem to say that they will be resurrected in order to choose their destiny. Could you explain a little more in detail how you think that will happen??? I mean will they live for a couple of years (a season perhaps)and be tempted by satan or will it be something like God saying "hey, this is your choice. What do you want???"

Thanks guys. I'm glad to hear that.

Rebel Hog · 04-08-2006, 10:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1

the limits of communication of that time.

Rebel, you are the man, but no matter what, those early missionaries could have never reached all those living before the establishment of the "white christian culture"on this continent.

The 10 commandments

Exodus 20:
2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.

cataway · 04-08-2006, 10:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: hillbillyhunter1

That makes sense to me Alex. So then you would be asserting that all those who died ignorant of the bible would go to heaven?? Is that right??. In that case, sounds like they had it easy (which is fine if that's the way it is). I like that thought though.

Cat,
you seem to say that they will be resurrected in order to choose their destiny. Could you explain a little more in detail how you think that will happen??? I mean will they live for a couple of years (a season perhaps)and be tempted by satan or will it be something like God saying "hey, this is your choice. What do you want???"

Thanks guys. I'm glad to hear that.

i don't know that I'd would use the word destiny as it relates to an individual. but at some point after the resurrection ,if the dead*, will live in accordance with the new laws /ways it is then that there will be a judgment to them . but the exact amount of time i believe is unknown
and yes satan will play a part .
* i used "the dead " because they were the ones that were once dead and it is only a way to refer to them.