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Old 03-29-2006, 09:19 PM   #1
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I am not sure if I am right or not but Jesus was a Jew right? It was Jews that set him to the cross right? Why would send some guy to be killed that was supposely the same religion. How did christiany (sp ?) come from all this?
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Old 03-30-2006, 01:41 AM   #2
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I am not sure if I am right or not but Jesus was a Jew right? It was Jews that set him to the cross right? Why would send some guy to be killed that was supposely the same religion. How did christiany (sp ?) come from all this?

No question too silly. Jesus is the Son of God .He was miraculously born of a virgin who was a Jewish women...Mary. Yes..the religious folks of the day sent him to be crucified by the Roman soldiers because ...

A. They were jealous of Him.
B. It was God's ultimate plan.....Jesus took our punishment on the cross.
And not for our sins only..but for the sins of the entire world. That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
It was God's plan.


John3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

How did Christianity come from this.? After Jesus was murdered He was put into a tomb with the stone rolled in front of it. Early Sunday morning the angel rolled away the stone. Jesus is no longer in his limestone grave.Where is He? He was raised from the dead. He walked again among many people for about 40 days. ..and He told his followers to wait and pray until the Holy Ghost , the comforter came.Then they watchedJesus being recieved in a cloud going upward toward the Heavens.while they were standing onThe Mount of Olives.The followers prayed together for about 10 days in an upper room.in Jerusalem.When the day of Pentecost came {A Jewish holy day},the Holy Ghost filled the room where there were about 120 people praying. They all began speaking inother languages as they were all filled with the Holy Ghost. Acts chapter 2.The apostles began having meetings in homes teaching new believers about the things Christ Jesus taught .The Holy Ghost was also inspiring them {And they wrote letters ..which also make up some of the New Testament.} church instructions such as The Epistle to the Romans, Galations etc.. The book that tells how Christianity got started is The Book of Acts. Christians are followers of the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Acts 11:26 And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church,{A group of believers}and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Hope this was a help.,
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Old 03-30-2006, 03:59 AM   #3
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Christ was the Son of God, Gods chosen people are the Jews and as a result Christ was a jew, he was the only Jew (or person) to ever lead a perfect life, he was the Messiah, he fulfilled all the prophesies in the Old Testament concerning the Messiah.

As C7 said, some of the Jewish leaders of the day were jealous of him and also fearful of him and his powers, as a result they brought charges against him, among those charges were blasphemy, he was sentenced to death in reality by the Jewish leaders due to this. He was crucified, died and was resurected overcoming death and atoning for our sins. He is our Saviour!

Christianity came from this because the people of the day that recognized he was the Messiah followed him and his teachings.
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Old 03-30-2006, 05:37 AM   #4
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A. They were jealous of Him.
B. It was God's ultimate plan.....Jesus took our punishment on the cross.
And not for our sins only..but for the sins of the entire world. That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Also don't forget that according to their religion, Jesus commited blasphemy. He claimed to be God and this infuriated them.By Jewish law it was a transgression punishable by death. The romans, who of course were in charge,bascially didn't care, they just thought He was crazy but not guilty of anything worthy of crcifixtion. They did it to appease the Jewish leaders.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:20 AM   #5
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Also don't forget that according to their religion, Jesus commited blasphemy. He claimed to be God and this infuriated them.By Jewish law it was a transgression punishable by death.


Wrong Sylvan!! Jesus was who he said he was, God manifest in the flesh, The Father, The creator by whom all things were made, and without him was not anything made that was made. Some did not believe but that did not make it any less true then than it does today. Jesus is still the one and only true God and Savior, and beside him is none other. The only wise God and Savior, Jesus Christ. The same yesterday, today, and forever.
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Old 03-30-2006, 08:46 AM   #6
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As I understand it, the Jews at that time (and maybe still today?) expected the Messiah to be an earthy king--not the humble son of a carpenter. Christ was telling the truth when He said He was the Son of God, but they Jews did not believe it, and it was indeed a crime for somone to make that proclamation if they thought it was not true.

One thing I'll add for clarity's sake. Notice that John 3:16 says "...whosoever believeth in Him should not perish........" That in no way implies that belief alone will get you into heaven. It says "should not"--not can not, will not, shall not,etc. If someone truly believes in Christ, they will follow God's commands. Just like if someone warns you of the dangers of meth, and you believe them, then you should not ever try it. That doesn't mean you won't, or can't. James 2:19 says the devils believe and tremble, but that won't get them into heaven. John 3:16 is, in my opinion, the most misused, misread, misinterpreted, and flat-out abused verses in the Bible.
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How did Christianity come from this.? After Jesus was murdered He was put into a tomb with the stone rolled in front of it. Early Sunday morning the angel rolled away the stone.

Not according to Jewish Law Chuck.


Definition
Observance of Shabbat is mentioned a number of times in the Torah, most notably as the fourth of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:8-11 and Deuteronomy 5:12-15). Other instances are Exodus 31:12-17 and 35:2-3, Leviticus 19:3 and 30, 23:3 and Numbers 28:9-10 (the sacrifices). It is referred to directly by the prophets Isaiah (56:4,6) and Ezekiel (ch. 20, 22, 23) and Nehemiah 9:14, apart from numerous other allusions in the Hebrew Bible.
Jewish law's definition defines a day as ending at dusk and nightfall, which is when the next day then begins. Thus, Shabbat begins before sundown Friday night and ends at after nightfall Saturday night (traditionally, after three stars can be seen in the sky). The added time between sunset and nightfall on Saturday night owes to the ambiguous status of that part of the day according to Jewish law.
On occasions the word Shabbat can refer to the law of Shemittah (Sabbatical year) or to the Jewish holidays, or to a week of days, dependent on the context.


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Old 03-30-2006, 09:31 AM   #8
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Wrong Sylvan!! Jesus was who he said he was, God manifest in the flesh, The Father, The creator by whom all things were made, and without him was not anything made that was made. Some did not believe but that did not make it any less true then than it does today. Jesus is still the one and only true God and Savior, and beside him is none other. The only wise God and Savior, Jesus Christ. The same yesterday, today, and forever.
Wrong about what?Maybe you shouldread posts more carefully and come down off your horse! The question was why did the Jews want Jesus sent to the cross? Clearly one of the reasonswas blasphemy. He claimed to be God and it angered them because they didn't believe Him. That should have beenobvious. Don't you think that if they belived He wasthe messiah they would have treatedHim a bit differently? So in their eyes He was guilty of blasphemy and the punishment for blasphemydeath. For the life of me, this kind of response is why I don't bother posting here much anymore. There's always somebody ready with a holier than thou attitude ready to preach first and ask questions later. I happen to believe "Jesus was who he said he was, God manifest in the flesh, The Father, The creator by whom all things were made, and without him was not anything made that was made." but the Jews at that timedidn't now did they?
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What was said about Christ? The scribes said he blasphemed--Matt. 9:3 The Pharisees said he cast out devils through the prince of devils--Matt 9:34 The high priest accused Christ of blasphemy after they had conspired to kill him-- Matt. 26:65 The scribes accused Christ of blasphemy in Mark 2:7 In Mark 14 there is another account of the high priest accusing Christ of blasphemy, and they condemned Him to death.

That's a few of the verses anyway.

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Sylvan; You are right, I didn't read your post very well before I answered. I stand corrected and will try to pay closer attention next time. I missed the "according to their religion" part. Sorry. Snooky
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