Exodus 17:14 "Then the Lord instructed Moses, 'Write this down as a permanent record...'"
Exodus 24:4 "Then Moses carefully wrote down all the Lord's instructions."
Exodus 34:27 "And the Lord said to Moses, 'Write down all these instructions, for they represents the terms of my covenant with you and with Israel.'"
Leviticus 1:1 "The Lord called to Moses from the Tabernacle and said to him, 'Give the following instructions to the Israelites...'"
Leviticus 6:8 "Then the Lord said to Moses, 'Give Aaron and his sons the following instructions...'"
Deuteronomy 31:9 "So Moses wrote down this law and gave it to the priests."
Deuteronomy 31:24-26 "When Moses had finished writing down this entire body of law in a book..."
Passages elsewhere in the Hebrew Scriptures:
Joshua 1:7-8 "...Obey all the laws Moses gave you."
Joshua 8:31-34 "He followed the instructions that Moses the Lord's servant had written in the Book of the Law..."
Joshua 22:5 "...obey all the commands and the laws that Moses gave to you."
2 Chronicles 34:14 "...Hilkiah the high priest...found the book of the Law of the Lord as it had been given through Moses."
Passages in the Gospels which show that Jesus and John the Baptizer believed Moses to be the author:
Matthew 19:7-8 "...why did Moses say a man could merely write an official letter of divorce and send her away?", they asked. Jesus replied, 'Moses permitted divorce...'"
Matthew 22:24 "Moses said, 'If a man dies without children...'"
Mark 7:10 "For instance, Moses gave you this law from God..."
Mark 12:24 "...haven't you ever read about this in the writings of Moses, in the story of the burning bush..."
Luke 24:44 "...I told you that everything written about me by Moses and the prophets and in the Psalms must all come true."
John 1:17 "For the law was given through Moses..."
John 5:46 "But if you had believed Moses, you would have believed me because he wrote about me. And since you don't believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?"
John 7:23 "...do it, so as not to break the law of Moses..."
Passages elsewhere in the Christian Scriptures:
Acts 26:22 "...I teach nothing except what the prophets and Moses said would happen..."
Romans 10:5 "For Moses wrote..."
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Moses wrote "THE LAW." He didn't write all of the Torah. When Jesus speaks of the "law of Moses" in the NT hewas using language that was familiar with Hebrew tradition. They knew the Torah as the "law of Moses."
I am certain that Moses didn't write the whole Pentateuch from Genesis-Deuteronomy. There is no way that he could have. Quite certainly, I see no problem with that...as the Bible tells us that he wrote "the law" which I am sure that he did write a chunk of...if not most of the Torah. In him not writing it from front to back there is no fault in comparing that to Scripture. Moses was dead when the end of Deuteronomy was written. So there's no possible way he could've written it. Most credit the end of it to Joshua, which is also uncertain.
Quite frankly though...the Moses wrote it camp, can't prove that, just as the Moses didn't write it camp can't prove it. So I guess it's a topic of discussion, rather than a topic of debate.
My faith also, does not rest on authorship of the Torah, but the author and finisher of my faith.
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Moses wrote "THE LAW." He didn't write all of the Torah. When Jesus speaks of the "law of Moses" in the NT hewas using language that was familiar with Hebrew tradition. They knew the Torah as the "law of Moses."
I am certain that Moses didn't write the whole Pentateuch from Genesis-Deuteronomy. There is no way that he could have. Quite certainly, I see no problem with that...as the Bible tells us that he wrote "the law" which I am sure that he did write a chunk of...if not most of the Torah. In him not writing it from front to back there is no fault in comparing that to Scripture. Moses was dead when the end of Deuteronomy was written. So there's no possible way he could've written it. Most credit the end of it to Joshua, which is also uncertain.
Quite frankly though...the Moses wrote it camp, can't prove that, just as the Moses didn't write it camp can't prove it. So I guess it's a topic of discussion, rather than a topic of debate.
My faith also, does not rest on authorship of the Torah, but the author and finisher of my faith.
Can you prove he didn't write the whole Torah ?
I gave nothing but prove with verses, we Jews called the Torah "the Law"
can you quote verses to the contrary ?
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Yep, I can...but I got a 12 page book report to write right now...once I finish it, if I'm up to it, I'll find the part of Deuteronomy that was written after Moses died...
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I'd take Moses. But if Joshua wrote the part after he died that doesn't affect the truth of the scriptures that call Moses the author. Like when a Vice President takes over for a dead President, hemay notreally consider himself the president until he wins an election himself, ask Gerold Ford. He would finsih the president's term and dedicate it to him out of respect, Remember Lyndon Johnson? He actually said this about his own presidency.
I'd take Moses. But if Joshua wrote the part after he died that doesn't affect the truth of the scriptures that call Moses the author. Like when a Vice President takes over for a dead President, hemay notreally consider himself the president until he wins an election himself, ask Gerold Ford. He would finsih the president's term and dedicate it to him out of respect, Remember Lyndon Johnson? He actually said this about his own presidency.
So Moses wrote, even if Joshua finished it.
Trae
You are right on some of the points.
The Bible doesn't call Moses the author of thePentateuch (also called the Torah and yes I know that Torah means the law)....it calls him the author of "the law." These five books were designated "the law" many many years after Moses presumably wrote it, because people at that time, believed Moses had written the whole of it.
This could actually be incorrect. Though I do not doubt that Moses wrote some of it...the actual "law" in the Pentateuch, I do not think that I'm out of line for believing that he didn't actually write every word of it.
I honestly think, that it is much more logical and reasonable that Moses didn't, in fact, write the whole Pentateuch (especially since it is hard for dead people to write or do anything), and that I can believe that without contradicting or stepping on Scripture.
We both agree...Moses wrote "the law." We disagree on whether he wrote the whole Torah or Pentateuch that we have come to known today.
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Ancient Jewish and Christian writers, such as Ecclesiasticus, Josephus, Philo, and Origen were essentially in full agreement that the Pentateuch was written solely by Moses. The Mishnah and the Talmud also confirm this. Tradition during the first millennium of Christian history agrees with this belief. 4
Many present-day Fundamentalists and other Evangelical Christians continue to believe that Moses wrote the entire Pentateuch:
P.N. Benware states that "Moses was the human author of Genesis and the other books of the Pentateuch ...These five 'books of the law' were written by Moses alone, with the exception of Deuteronomy 34, which records the death of Moses... The Pentateuch, therefore, is an inspired, inerrant, authoritative document written by the man Moses." 5
The authors of the New Commentary on the Whole Bible state that "The education Moses would have received as the adopted grandson of Pharoh specially qualified him for the task of compiling and writing the Pentateuch." 1
Larry Richards states: "Moses wrote or supervised the writing of the bulk of the Pentateuch and ...these books are rightly viewed as both a divine revelation and an accurate, eyewitness account of events described as happening in Moses' lifetime." 6
J.W. Hayford writes: "Jewish tradition lists Moses as the author of Genesis and of the next four books....we notice a number of loanwords from Egyptian that are found in Genesis, a fact which suggests that the original author had his roots in Egypt, as did Moses." 7
Since conservative Christians believe in the inerrancy (freedom from error) of the Bible, the matter of authorship is settled and is not open to debate. Moses wrote at least the vast majority of the Pentateuch. Some suggest that he authored all five books, and that the account of his death and burial was a prophecy by Moses. However, some Fundamentalist and other Evangelical Christians have deviated from traditional Christian teachings. They believe that selected passages were written by persons other than Moses. Some of these writings are referred to as "post-Mosaica" (material that was added after Moses' death). Others are called "a-Mosaica" (material that could have been written at the time of Moses but which could not reasonably be attributed to him).
Fundamentalists and other Evangelical Christians generally believe that Moses wrote all or most of the five books after the Israelite's exodus from Egypt, but before they entered Canaan. This would date the writing to the 40 year period when the Israelites were wandering through the desert, circa 1450 BCE.
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Who Wrote the Torah (Pentateuch)
