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Old 03-05-2006, 04:52 PM   #1
 
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Default Job (for begging4bucks)

Begging 4 Bucks brought up a point about suffering in his post whos god, and here is some look at what the Bible has to say about it through the life of Job.

Job was a very prosperous man, he had 10 children, many animals, and was 'blameless, upright, and God-fearing, the Bible says "the greatest man in the east," referring to what God thought of him.

Job 2
1(A)Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the LORD.

2The LORD said to Satan, "Where have you come from?" Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it."

3The LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man fearing God and turning away from evil. And he still (B)holds fast his integrity, although you incited Me against him to ruin him without cause."

4Satan answered the LORD and said, "Skin for skin! Yes, all that a man has he will give for his life.

5"(C)However, put forth Your hand now, and (D)touch his bone and his flesh; he will curse You to Your face."

6So the LORD said to Satan, "Behold, he is in your power, only spare his life."

--God brought up Job; a righteous, God fearing man.

If you read on Job is attacked first by all of his children being killed, his family, then his earthly prosperity-wealth in livestock.
But Job will not curse God, saying 'God has blessed me, and He has the right to take away.'
So satan goes back to God and God give satan permission to attack Jobs flesh. Job still will not be broken, even after his own wife curses God. Later on we see that Job is depressed and distressed, needing help from his friends, who in turn spite God.
Job still will not give in, he fears God and shuns evil.

Most of the book is dialogue with Jobs friends, until God speaks and reveals that He is the Great Creator and has complete authority......Its not about why, its about who He is!!!

God gets angry at Jobs friends for they did not speak right of God, and Job is their only way to escape the wrath of God. Job does intercede and saves his friends, shows forgiveness.
In return for Jobs repentance and faithfulness, God restores Jobs health, a new family, and his fortunes two-fold.

As we can see through all of this God has tested a righteous man, to make him stronger. But it seems that begging4bucks is not a beleiver, but its shows applicable with the suffering he faced, first with his family and animals, those who he cares for, then his prosperity, grades, then his own health.
Now I know that this still isnt proof enough for beggingforbucks to beleive, but its all right there in the Bible in the book of Job, you can read it for yourself. But God tests those who are righteous for their own good.

James says about suffering in James 1:2-7...."2Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. 4Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything. 5If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. 6But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; 8he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does."

Guys, please add and begging4bucks, I will be praying for you so that you may see God in a new light.
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Old 03-05-2006, 05:44 PM   #2
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Default RE: Job (for begging4bucks)

The Bible says that we can only "know in part." We will never get all of the answers to all of life's problems. God will answer a lot of questions that you may present to Him. The Bible says to "ask and you will receive." But when God does not want to tell you why or answer a certain question you may have - then you have to accept the fact that He has a good enough reason not to give you the answer, trust that He knows what He is doing - that He knows what is best for the situation at hand - and then move on with your life.
If you don't, you will run the risk of getting stuck in the misery of your past - and you thus may lose your one and only chance to accomplish anything worthwhile for God with whatever allotted time you still have left down here on this earth.
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