Abmoination??

Charlie P · 02-09-2006, 09:22 AM

In every thread dealing with with homosexuality I see many here going back to the OT which refers to the act being an abomination.

Isn't adultery also an abomination? If you get divorced and remarried aren't you committing a continueing abomination against God, that is a bad as a homosexual that continues to have homosexual sex.

Why go back to the OT testament to make a point,if the laws of the OT don't apply anymore?

Doesn't the NT talk more about adultery then Homosexuality?

Charlie P · 02-09-2006, 09:37 AM

I say onto you, everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of fornication, makes her an adulteress, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery"

02-09-2006, 09:56 AM

Charlie, you have to consider the audience and the content. Corrinth was pretty crazy joint. They were cutting thier flesh off and putting it to idols. They were having orgies. They had a incestual couple in the church.

For instance, I was divorced. I got divorced when I was lost. But I accept Christ as my Savior. So now the church has accepted me getting married as long as I marry a girl who also is a believer. See when I accepted Christ, I became a new creation as Paul did also even though he participated in killing Christians.

We worked long and hard thru this at my Church and after some praying and and thinking and studying we came the conclusion that if I took back my exwife after I became saved, I would accually be committing adultery. What does dark have to do with light? We would become unyoked.

Your thinking totoally with human logic. You see sins as having levels of severness. But Paul explains to our God, just by calling someone a fool, you might be endanger of being put in Hell. We don't know God's level of punishment for sin. You are thinking of it as Dantes rings. Remember, if you could understand God, he wouldn't be much of a God.

OT is called out alot. But Paul referres to homosexuality too, in Corr, Romans and others. So its in the NT too. If you need references, I will try to take the time. But a few things we know. God doesn't like it. He destroyed two cities over it. Lets not take any chances.

Jesus didnt' come back to destroy the law but to fulfill it. If we lived by the law, we couldn't wear wool and cotton.

Do you kinda understand? I mean alot of this, you have to be a believer to really buy into. If your not and sitting on the sidelines just trying to poke holes in it, you might not be able too. But God is great and can work wonders in anybodies life.

Take a look at a pretty well know scripture about faith.
Hebrews 11:1
1Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

Rebel Hog · 02-09-2006, 09:58 AM

1Cor.7:2
[2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1Cor.6:9-10
[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

First, homosexuality is an activity that is inherently dangerous and cannot be made healthy. Health problems can include: infectious pathogens, digestive or urinary ailments, acute depression, suicidal tendencies, substance abuse, sexually transmitted diseases, HIV-infection, and full-blown AIDS. Homosexuality carries with it health risks that, though they may be reduced in some cases, can"™t be avoided entirely. Second, homosexual conduct is not healthful and puts innocent people at risk who do not choose to be involved in this activity. As a community we should not do anything to encourage this behavior.

Charlie P · 02-09-2006, 10:02 AM

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So now the church has accepted me getting married as long as I marry a girl who also is a believer

So does that make it right? I've seen many here say this church or that church doesn't follow that correct doctrine.

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Your thinking totoally with human logic. You see sins as having levels of severness.

So do many here, from what I've seen. So your church could be wrong, just as the ones that except homosexuals into their ranks,right?

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So its in the NT too. If you need references, I will try to take the time

I know it is, that why I said it' mentioned but less then adultery.

I'm not tryin to poke holes in anything. I asked a few sincere questions.

Charlie P · 02-09-2006, 10:10 AM

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1Cor.7:2
[2] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

That doesn't mean that if you divorce you cvan get a new wife does it?

Would this counterdict that verse?

I say onto you, everyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of fornication, makes her an adulteress, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery"

Bigcountry,Is there a verse that say's it's allright to remarry as long as the wife is a believer, or is that something your chuch say's is ok?

The Rev · 02-09-2006, 10:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: Charlie P

In every thread dealing with with homosexuality I see many here going back to the OT which refers to the act being an abomination.

Isn't adultery also an abomination? If you get divorced and remarried aren't you committing a continueing abomination against God, that is a bad as a homosexual that continues to have homosexual sex.

Why go back to the OT testament to make a point,if the laws of the OT don't apply anymore?

Doesn't the NT talk more about adultery then Homosexuality?

Romans 1: 27--32... Read it Charlie, New Testament about Homosexuals
All through the New Testament, we find not only adultery is wrong, but even thinking about a woman in a sexual way...

Ought Six · 02-09-2006, 10:17 AM

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So now the church has accepted me getting married as long as I marry a girl who also is a believer.

So does that make it right? I've seen many here say this church or that church doesn't follow that correct doctrine.

Thats a tough one. One I am struggling with right now, myself.

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Your thinking totoally with human logic. You see sins as having levels of severness.

So do many here, from what I've seen. So your church could be wrong, just as the ones that except homosexuals into their ranks,right?

Accepting a homosexual as a church member is not wrong. Condoning their lifestyle is wrong. It is similar to an adulterer, while they should be welcomed into the church, their lifestyle should not be accepted.

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Isn't adultery also an abomination? If you get divorced and remarried aren't you committing a continueing abomination against God, that is a bad as a homosexual that continues to have homosexual sex.

Correct, adultery is a sin and is thus an abomination to our God. I am not sure about remarrying.

Charlie P · 02-09-2006, 10:19 AM

Bigcountry, you stated your church say's it's allright if you remarry a believer

Well the Catholic church will grant an annulment even when the people were married in a RCC, had children, lived together for 14 years,then the man commits adultery with a woman,get her pregnant and divorces his wife. Thenmarries the woman that he commited adultery with lives with her for 12 years gets the annulment and get remarried in the RCC.

Go figure,right.

Rebel Hog · 02-09-2006, 10:22 AM

So we have six major references to homosexuality in all. They are in Genesis 19, Leviticus 18-20, Judges 19, Romans 1, 1 Corinthians 6, and 1 Timothy 1. Following are brief explanations of three different responses which are common among gay Christians: the Ex-Gay Response, the Celibacy Response, and the Gay Marriage Response. These are not the only responses, but they represent a variety of different views.