Hunting And Scriptures

hunt genious · 02-07-2006, 08:18 AM

OK folks I was just courious as to whether you can come up with scripture to support hunting. And sence there we're clean and unclean animls in the old testiment Does anyone have have scripture to back up the eating or taking of unclean animals today ?

I think this is a hunting and religion forum correct.

etothepii · 02-07-2006, 08:49 AM

Genesis 25:

27 And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field;

Genesis 27:

[size=2]1 And it came to pass, that when Isaac was old, and his eyes were dim, so that he could not see, he called Esau his eldest son, and said unto him, My son: and he said unto him, Behold, here am I. 910 And he said, Behold now, I am old, I know not the day of my death: 1112 Now therefore take, I pray thee, thy weapons, thy quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison; 1314 And make me savoury meat, such as I love, and bring it to me, that I may eat; that my soul may bless thee before I die. 1516 And Rebekah heard when Isaac spake to Esau his son. And Esau went to the field to hunt for venison, and to bring it. 6 And Rebekah spake unto Jacob her son, saying, Behold, I heard thy father speak unto Esau thy brother, saying, 7 Bring me venison, and make me savoury meat, that I may eat, and bless thee before the LORD before my death. 8 Now therefore, my son, obey my voice according to that which I command thee. 9 Go now to the flock, and fetch me from thence two good kids of the goats; and I will make them savoury meat for thy father, such as he loveth: 10 And thou shalt bring it to thy father, that he may eat, and that he may bless thee before his death. 11 And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man: 12 My father peradventure will feel me, and I shall seem to him as a deceiver; and I shall bring a curse upon me, and not a blessing. 2122 And his mother said unto him, Upon me be thy curse, my son: only obey my voice, and go fetch me them. 2324 And he went, and fetched, and brought them to his mother: and his mother made savoury meat, such as his father loved. 2627 And Rebekah took goodly raiment of her eldest son Esau, which were with her in the house, and put them upon Jacob her younger son: 2930 And she put the skins of the kids of the goats upon his hands, and upon the smooth of his neck: 3132 And she gave the savoury meat and the bread, which she had prepared, into the hand of her son Jacob. 3334 And he came unto his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I; who art thou, my son? 3536 And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy first born; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me. 3738 And Isaac said unto his son, How is it that thou hast found it so quickly, my son? And he said, Because the LORD thy God brought it to me. 3940 And Isaac said unto Jacob, Come near, I pray thee, that I may feel thee, my son, whether thou be my very son Esau or not. 4142 And Jacob went near unto Isaac his father; and he felt him, and said, The voice is Jacob's voice, but the hands are the hands of Esau. 4344 And he discerned him not, because his hands were hairy, as his brother Esau's hands: so he blessed him. 4546 And he said, Art thou my very son Esau? And he said, I am. 4748 And he said, Bring it near to me, and I will eat of my son's venison, that my soul may bless thee. And he brought it near to him, and he did eat: and he brought him wine and he drank. 4950 And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son. 5152 And he came near, and kissed him: and he smelled the smell of his raiment, and blessed him, and said, See, the smell of my son is as the smell of a field which the LORD hath blessed...

We know Esau as a great hunterin the Bible. We read that because of Esau's scent, Jacob was able to fool his blind and aging father. Esau's clothes smelled of the field because he was a hunter: a man of the field.
Notice, the clothes weren't just any old rag he had worn but his "goodly" clothes.

Either Esau spent so much time in the field, his clothes picked up natural scents, or he worked to scent his clothes purposefully. How neat?!

Can you imagine him, rubbing his clothes with plants and dirt as he procedes to the hunt? Can you see him, careful to store his clothing away from household odors and perfumes? Was this guy serious about his hunting, or what?

I know there is a much bigger story here, with Jacob and Esau, but as I was reading it, the importance of Esau's cover scent lept out at me.

Rebel Hog · 02-07-2006, 09:26 AM

Booklet > What Does the Bible Teach About Clean and Unclean Meats ...

Lev.11
[1] And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
[2] Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
[3] Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
[4] Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
[5] And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
[6] And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
[7] And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
[8] Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
[9] These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
[10] And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
[11] They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
[12] Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
[13] And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
[14] And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
[15] Every raven after his kind;
[16] And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
[17] And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
[18] And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
[19] And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
[20] All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
[21] Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
[22] Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
[23] But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.
[24] And for these ye shall be unclean: whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the even.
[25] And whosoever beareth ought of the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.
[26] The carcases of every beast which divideth the hoof, and is not clovenfooted, nor cheweth the cud, are unclean unto you: every one that toucheth them shall be unclean.
[27] And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even.
[28] And he that beareth the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: they are unclean unto you.
[29] These also shall be unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind,
[30] And the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.
[31] These are unclean to you among all that creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the even.
[32] And upon whatsoever any of them, when they are dead, doth fall, it shall be unclean; whether it be any vessel of wood, or raiment, or skin, or sack, whatsoever vessel it be, wherein any work is done, it must be put into water, and it shall be unclean until the even; so it shall be cleansed.
[33] And every earthen vessel, whereinto any of them falleth, whatsoever is in it shall be unclean; and ye shall break it.
[34] Of all meat which may be eaten, that on which such water cometh shall be unclean: and all drink that may be drunk in every such vessel shall be unclean.
[35] And every thing whereupon any part of their carcase falleth shall be unclean; whether it be oven, or ranges for pots, they shall be broken down: for they are unclean, and shall be unclean unto you.
[36] Nevertheless a fountain or pit, wherein there is plenty of water, shall be clean: but that which toucheth their carcase shall be unclean.
[37] And if any part of their carcase fall upon any sowing seed which is to be sown, it shall be clean.
[38] But if any water be put upon the seed, and any part of their carcase fall thereon, it shall be unclean unto you.
[39] And if any beast, of which ye may eat, die; he that toucheth the carcase thereof shall be unclean until the even.
[40] And he that eateth of the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: he also that beareth the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.
[41] And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten.
[42] Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination.
[43] Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby.
[44] For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[45] For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.
[46] This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:
[47] To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.

Rebel Hog · 02-07-2006, 09:42 AM

Proverbs 12:27
"The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but the substance of a diligent man is precious."
The book of Proverbs deals with many practical subjects as well as spiritual ones. In this verse we are given advice on hunting. It is not wrong to hunt; however, Proverbs 12:27 says that the man who hunts for game and just kills it, and does not take possession of it for eating is a slothful man. The diligent hunter takes his game for food (roasting) and considers it a precious possession, as he has food for his family's table. Today men are slaughtering animals for wicked reasons. Many elephants and rhinos are killed for their tusks and horns and their bodies are left to rot. Other animals are slain for just the sport of it and their heads and bodies are stuffed to hang on a wall for a trophy of man's prowess, while the meat was discarded. Bulls are slain for men just to watch the sport of bull fighting. Cock fighting is another sport where the cocks are put together to see which one will kill the other. Gambling is usually associated with this sport. We could name other atrocities of killing animals which take place with evil motives. God looks on the heart and motives of men when it comes to how we treat His creatures and we shall be judged for it.

Goose 11 · 02-07-2006, 09:54 AM

Rebel did an excellent job with those scripturesand I thought I'd add one more for you. Both the killing (which would include hunting) and the unclean questions are answered here.

Acts 10:9-16The next day, as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray. And he became hungry and wanted something to eat, but while they were preparing it, he fell into a trance and saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. And there came a voice to him: "œRise, Peter; kill and eat." But Peter said, "œBy no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean." And the voice came to him again a second time, "œWhat God has made clean, do not call common." This happened three times, and the thing was taken up at once to heaven.

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cataway · 02-07-2006, 10:31 AM

goose that was the scripture i was going to use

Alex The Hawk · 02-07-2006, 07:39 PM

Hunting Was OK as long as it was for clean animals, The Law of Moses provides for the hunter rules, such as washing yourself and washing clothes before entering the village or house.

hunt genious · 02-08-2006, 11:07 AM

[quote]ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog

Booklet > What Does the Bible Teach About Clean and Unclean Meats ...

Lev.11
[4] Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
[5] And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
[6] And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

oK WHATS A CONEY And is the hail literal for a rabbit or what?

And BTW great scriptures folks Thanks

Rebel Hog · 02-08-2006, 12:55 PM

[quote]ORIGINAL: hunt genious

Quote:

ORIGINAL: Rebel Hog

Booklet > What Does the Bible Teach About Clean and Unclean Meats ...

Lev.11
[4] Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
[5] And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
[6] And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

oK WHATS A CONEY And is the hail literal for a rabbit or what?

And BTW great scriptures folks Thanks

(Tristram, Natural History of the Bible). It is about the size
and color of a rabbit, though clumsier in structure, and without
a tail. Its feet are not formed for digging, and therefore it
has its home not in burrows but in the clefts of the rocks.
"Coney" is an obsolete English word for "rabbit."

gogiggen · 02-08-2006, 01:17 PM

Gen 10:9

He was a mighty hunter before the Lord, that is why it is said, "like Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the Lord.