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Old 01-31-2006, 02:50 PM   #1
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Default Hate the sin, love the sinner

That's a phrase that most of us have heard or used, but it's often easier said than done

I was thinking that today when listening to Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid and that bunch bad mouth President Bush about picking Justice Alito as the Supreme Court nominee. Sour GrapesI guess.

I feel the same way when Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, etc. open their mouths as well.

How do y'all love the unloveable? I admit to having a hard time of it with certain people.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:02 PM   #2
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How do y'all love the unloveable? I admit to having a hard time of it with certain people. Dave....

Once I wasforced into teaching the adjudicated youth. They were high school kids and i feared for my life. They were in there for assalt, armed robbery , GTA , drugs and sexual offenders and most could easily kick my butt. Because they were special ed . they were given more chances from the judge than most regular education juveniles. I feared fo rmy life and then teh Holy Spirit brought this verse to my mind.
1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Obviously I di dnot have as much love as I thought because I was scared to death. I ask the Lord how to have the love that cast out fear. The Spirit prompted me to write thier names down in the back of my Bible and pray for them everyday. I've lerned a valuable lesson...you can't hate someone your praying for. In faith...you are anticipating good things. These boys knew I prayed for them andI had a great year.One responded ..no ones ever prayed for me before.
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Old 01-31-2006, 03:29 PM   #3
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That's a phrase that most of us have heard or used, but it's often easier said than done



Yes, easier said the done!
Bro. Dave let's say you're at the booking desk and they bring in an individual who has murdered 5 women and one was a close relative of yours.....do you say, I love the sinner, but hate the crime or do you say...Buddy you betterpray you make it to trial?


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Old 01-31-2006, 08:15 PM   #4
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ya been there done that. dealing with children and there feelings is a place were you have to becarful on how you rebuke them an not break there spirit.dealing with a wife can all so test your abilities.

i learned some thing else not long ago .in the bible were it says that God hates the one and loves the other . the hates the one. means that he loves him less not that he wants him dead or that he would not care if something bad happened to him.
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That phrase applies only to God's agape(perfect love)
We are too prejudist and cannot really love the sinners as we should, not while we are in the body.
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Old 01-31-2006, 08:30 PM   #6
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To each his own in dealing with this matter. What works for me may not work for you.
I have to stay prayed up, and ask God to allow me to see others through His eyes. When I do, the blinders of prejudice fall off. ( when I say prejudice, I don't mean race.)
One day on the way to work prayed that God would let me see with His eyes, and feel what others felt. I saw a street person walking across a bridge in the opposite direction I was driving. I looked deep into this persons eyes, and felt his pain, I wept uncontrollable. I had to sit in my truck in the parking lot to get my eyes back to normal before going into work.
Ask God to remove the scales from your eyes, and He will.
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This phrase has special meaning to me. It underscores my failure. I have a friend who is a lesbian and let me tell you, she is easy to love. I have a much harder time with my soon to be ex-wife. Whose sin is worse? Is there a scale for gaugeing sin? We, as humans, have decided murder is really bad...while at the same time, lying isnt. I wonder how God sees sin. I know he cant stand the sight of sin, but is some sin worse than others?

I fear I have come to the point where I truly know what hate is.
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To Him a sin is a sin. Even those sins of omission, or failing to do what is right.
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It's tough. Trust me.

I just can't seem to get past the fact that some people are so moronic...

Plus they bring so much crap on themselves. No one is helping them do it. It's conscious bad decisions and a warped world-view that they've developed, that does it for them.

I seriously need help with this area of my Christianity.
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Old 02-01-2006, 03:06 AM   #10
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That phrase applies only to God's agape(perfect love)
We are too prejudist and cannot really love the sinners as we should, not while we are in the body. Alex

ya been there done that. dealing with children and there feelings is a place were you have to becarful on how you rebuke them an not break there spirit.dealing with a wife can all so test your abilities. Cataway.

Wow..For me two excellent comments. Alex I was wondering what was going on within me concerning my eldest son. And it goes along with Cataway's remark. In summary. I wore the wheels off 2 strollers, baseball from 7-13 was hours weekly and he was a star. We home-schooled him and we did everything together. His friends loved me. He was my best friend. he works with a couple of men in a warehouse who has taken him under thier wing. They are rich , womenizing, alcoholics and drug users. He has a girlfriend etc.etc. I know I should show unconditional love but as Alex has said.."In myflesh I findthat very difficult." I have in love ministered to him the Word and the folly of not being ready when Jesus comes back. Yesterday I yelled at him for not putting my tools back ..but i know deep down it's nothing about tools.I'm very grieved with his girl friend situation. He knows not to take her to his bedroom in my house.I've in love let him know I will not stand for it. This my friends has eatten me up. But through prayer I do feel love will win out..I never thought it would be hard to show love to myson. Leaf's name just popped in my head. Maybe I need to pray for Matt harder. I know prayer has done wonders for the way I percieve Leaf.

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