Is there any? Just wanting opinions. Your own words. I know some scripture on it. So really just wanting to converse on it.
BC, I live by...
Matt.12:31-32
[31] Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
[32] And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
Ok, I am with ya. Thats the exact scripture I was wondering about. But in your words give me an example of what that means. Thanks for the info in advance.
Also, my pastor thinks suicide can be a forgivable sin. I understand why he says this. I mean when we die we will have some sort of sin against us just because we are human, but Paul states anyone that defiles the body, God will destroy us. This is my second quest for understanding.
Ok, I am with ya. Thats the exact scripture I was wondering about. But in your words give me an example of what that means. Thanks for the info in advance.
First of allBC, as I have mentioned many times, I don't Confirm nor Comform by Comparing Opinions.
Suicide is always traged, but in itself it is not the unpardonable sin. The only sin God cannot pardon is the sin of rejecting Him. God knew your cousin's heart, and He also knows that mental illness sometimes clouds a person's judgment so much that they aren't fully responsible for their actions.
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
I know you don't know the answer for sure but would like to know an opinion.Let say a woman is alcoholic, and lets say she gets into witchcraft pretty heavy. She does this for years. Now she grew up a Lutherian. Now she's in AA and seems to help people. She decides she wants to become a minister. Putting all the woman/man stuff aside, she takes some class's and now ordaned. Not sure how that happens so quick, but now she's in a methodist church preaching from time to time. But people that really knows her and goes to her house hears the cursing from her mouth. F this andF that. Also hears her make little jokes about "a witch should have this and that in her house", but says this jokingly giggling each time.
Now the mouth is saying one thing, but fruit is saying another. Also was her years of turning her back on the one true God Blasphemy? I see how she works in life and think she is dangerous myself.
Like I said, I am not puttting you on the spot or expect you to know, only God knows her heart.
Let say a woman is alcoholic, and lets say she gets into witchcraft pretty heavy.
Like I said, I am not puttting you on the spot or expect you to know, only God knows her heart.
BC, witchcraft is not a mental illness, it's denying Christ.
God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And all the divine attributes ascribed to the Father and the Son are equally ascribed to the Holy Spirit. [quote]
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When a person becomes born again by believing and receiving Jesus Christ (John 1:12-13; John 3:3-21),[/
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
Big Country sometimes Rebel Hog can be a bit obscure (no offense intended Rebel Hog).
I believe what Rebel Hog is trying to get you to see is that blaspheming the Holy Spirit
IS[/b] blaspheming GOD.
Isaiah 37:6(New International Version)
6 Isaiah said to them, "Tell your master, 'This is what the LORD says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard"”those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me.
In the above scripture the King of Assyria blasphemed the God who is the Holy Spirit housed in the Heavenly Body of Jesus and was housed in the earthly body of Jesus Christ.
Many people read the passage Matthew 12:32 and apply it ONLY to the Holy Spirit, and
believe that it somehow doesn"™t apply to speaking dispersions toward the Father and his Heavenly body Jesus.
That is the first mistake to overcome, and that is the point I believe Rebel Hog is trying to get you to see.
The results of making the mistake the King of Assyria made;
Isaiah 37:36(New International Version)
36 Then the angel of the LORD went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand men in the Assyrian camp[/i]. When the people got up the next morning"”there were all the dead bodies!
Rebel Hog my apologies to you if I have misspoken on your behalf.
Big Country as to the rest of your second example;
Isaiah 29:13(New International Version)
13 The Lord says:
"These people come near to me with their mouth
and honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
Their worship of me
is made up only of rules taught by men.
As redeemed people who desire to serve our God, we become changed people.
Sometimes it takes a while for this changed person to overcome our old person.
I question the wisdom of putting any immature Christian in a leadership role.
This lady is obviously immature.
In regard to the title of your thread, Alex along with several others have pointed out that at some point the Holy Spirit"™s convicting power maybe lost on a person.
Perhaps this person"™s lack of spiritual growth is a result of the earlier blaspheming of God
And God has removed his convicting power or perhaps it is just an outward sign of her immaturity as a Christian.
Either way, this person has no business being in a leadership position.
Thanks
Mr-Pirk
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Yea, I have always heard that. But not sure, that thats really just it. I have read alot on this. And still don't have my hands around it. So if it is blaspheming God, then do you believe the offending person has no hope of salvation?
So if it is blaspheming God, then do you believe the offending person has no hope of salvation?
No BC, This is what it says, read (31) and (32)? Are others Sins forgiven? Which is the only Sin Unpardonable?
The only sin God cannot pardon is the sin of rejecting Him.
Matt.12:31-32
[31] Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
[32] And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
John5:24
[24] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on Him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
1 John 1:9
[9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1John 2:1-2
[1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
[:@]See this is what I don't understand. Rebel, 32 says, if you do it, you cannot be forgiven, does that mean no hope of Salvation ever? I guess your saying no.
Unforgivable Sin?
