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Old 01-07-2006, 08:52 PM   #1
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Rev brought up something I would like some help with.

What EXACTLY is Blaspheming the Holy Spirit?

Is it simply rejecting Jesus?

I know there are a lot of generalities that maybe offered, but, I am looking for something more than a general reply.

What EXACTLY is Blaspheming the Holy Spirit?

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Old 01-07-2006, 08:53 PM   #2
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Rev brought up something I would like some help with.

What EXACTLY is Blaspheming the Holy Spirit?

Is it simply rejecting Jesus?


Yes, simply rejecting Jesus!
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Old 01-07-2006, 09:08 PM   #3
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Pirk, let me add once some rejects Jesus Christ, theonly sourcefor forgiveness, there is no forgiveness for that person. A person who turns away from Jesus Christ can receive no forgiveness, and hascomitted the unpardonable sin.
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Rev, with all due respect, if it was that simple then the other messages Jesus gave about rejecting Jesus would have covered it.

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Old 01-08-2006, 05:29 AM   #5
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Mathew 12:
31"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the {age} to come.

Mr Pirk, I am certainly no theologian or biblical scholoar so I can only tell you what I was taught. My understanding is that it means to publically damn God. Basically to understand he exists but torejectHim asa bad force in the universe rather than a good one. IMO satanists would be guilty of this sin. They aknowledge God but publically reject himand openly worshipsatan. For me this quickly get's into understanding the trinity and is difficult to comprehend.
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Rev, with all due respect, if it was that simple then the other messages Jesus gave about rejecting Jesus would have covered it.


No, your missing the point Bro. Pirk... Sylvan is right as far as rejecting Jesus and His message. But one doesn't have to be a satan worshipper or join some kind of cult.
If you reject Jesus, then one day, you see the light, Yes, you can be saved. ( look at Pauls life, he rejected Jesus and was saved, he also blasted blaphemous statements and was saved) However if you die without ever accepting Christ (rejecting Him) you have comitted the unpardonable sin.
If you don't believe this and have proof, then I suggest you go to every Bible institute in America and let them know abut your new found revelation brother, because they are all teaching wrong then.. I know ths sound sarcastic, just joking, you can't see my face, but I am smiling. ( saying this in love) I don't want to argue, however this is what the theological colleges are teaching.
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Sylvan is right as far as rejecting Jesus and His message. But one doesn't have to be a satan worshipper or join some kind of cult.
I didn't mean to implythat satan worship or joining a cult was a requirement foranunpardonable sinbutrather was using itas an example.
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Ididn't impy that either... I was simply agreeing with you,,, I know your not used to that...
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I'm not sure that I agree either with yall. The rich young ruler rejected Jesus when it came down to it, but his sin wasn't "unforgiveable." He could've received forgiveness anytime after that initial decision.

Annanais and Sapphira(sp?)on the other hand, "blasphemed the Holy Spirit" and ended up dead on that spot.

Somehow, I believe that their offense, had to be much more severe than just simply rejecting Christ. Otherwise, there'd be a whole lot less people walking around on the earth today.
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I'm not sure that I agree either with yall. The rich young ruler rejected Jesus when it came down to it, but his sin wasn't "unforgiveable." He could've received forgiveness anytime after that initial decision.

Annanais and Sapphira(sp?)on the other hand, "blasphemed the Holy Spirit" and ended up dead on that spot.

Somehow, I believe that their offense, had to be much more severe than just simply rejecting Christ. Otherwise, there'd be a whole lot less people walking around on the earth today.



You don't have to agree, I just pointed out to Pirk that most theological institutes in America are wrong, because that what they are teaching., but in the case of Annanais and Sapphira, we would all be guity of this too. If that were the case, the population of the world would probably be under 100, Malachi 3: 8-10, for we have all robbed God.
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