I wonder just how many locusts there might be if you had a 1000 year, or longer(study the different meanings\translations of the word "day" used in Genesis), breeding program.....and no death?
When the bible says death came into the world through one man, it doesn't mean that there was no death before Adam's fall, just that there was no death for man.
The same as the curse of death was brought on by one man, for man. The salvation for man was brought about by one man, for man, not animal.
The reason I bring this up is that sooner or later the Creation verses Evolution threads get around to the types of Life-Forms that were placed onNoah's ark.
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The reason I bring this up is that sooner or later the Creation verses Evolution threads get around to the types of Life-Forms that were placed onNoah's ark.
Did noah? Carry the human virus,s& the animals theres?
Did adam& eve have belly buttons?
Those them verses us?/ creation or evolution threads are intresting& ppls ideas etc. I personaly dont think its a matter of either or....( many sciences are involved other then evolution arent there?)
God Created -Eve olution& change& man& the universe etc etc etc -I believe..
God didnt do it acording to Dr dino science tho-
It is scary to thinkhis kinda science would be taught
I was reading a site where they thought after adams/eves sin- god changed all the teeth of the predators - after the sin- before that it seemed to be saying there was no need for such things(teeth)-( there was no killling( i dont know if therewas no death)- no predator & prey they where saying i believe?
( condem everyone threwout time for the sin of one man?)
But it seems theres all kinds of different interpationsto many many things
out there.
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Bro Pirk; Let me say first that I believe in animal rights, BUT I do not believe in the equal animal rights that the anti hunting, bunny hugging crowd are premoting. In 1 Cor. 9:9 Paul asks a question, "Doth God take care for oxen?" Verse 10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sake, no doubt, this is written:
Does this show that the bible was written with man in mind and not animals, or lesser forms of life?
Knightia I too have read those web-sites. I really dis-like them for this reason, they make Christians look like fools that will swollow anything.
You have to wonder just how much creedence a person would give you.
You try wittenessing to a person, and try to show them the reasonableness of accepting Jesus, and they assocate you with folks that run those sites.
Snooky your point is well taken(and you are correct), and the point you are making is exactly the reason I started this thread.
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Knightia I too have read those web-sites. I really dis-like them for this reason, they make Christians look like fools that will swollow anything.
I hear ya it does reflect badly somethings- I know all Christians arent the same tho too( no matter what some may do)
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You have to wonder just how much creedence a person would give you.
You try wittenessing to a person, and try to show them the reasonableness of accepting Jesus, and they assocate you with folks that run those sites.
I see what you mean to. Even without adding into the equation things& ppl like Dr dino- its got to be difficult. I mentioned before that awhile back i believe. To witness(my basic understanding)-To go forth& save the nonbelivers - Tell them they are condemed & worship false gods*& lies- tell them they are cults& false relgions& yours is the only right way& how much better they will be as ppl& there lifesif they follow yours ?- Yes it surely does sound like a very difficult job all by itself.
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and try to show them the reasonableness of accepting Jesus, .
What is the "reasonablness" of accepting Jesus?
These other things(the negitives)are just men who reflect badly on Christianity threw there acts ,words & inflated egos etc.
I can see past the weaknesses of men. What is the message of Jesus-"Love" ?That is not exclusive of Christian or Christ is it?
A Threat of etirinity in torture, pain& torment?( the salvation of my soul?)That i will be punished in hell for not excepting heaven& this elusive/exclusivelove ?Why would i believe that& the many other things like it to be"reasonable"?
I am a pretty reasonable person i think- Maybe you canexplain/show to me someother things you find reasonable?-
I should be able to see at least in part some of the reasonableness to it all - but it dosnt seem very reasonable.
( even condeming all for the sin of one seems Un-reasonable)
Maybe i just have a extra thick head ?
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Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
"Shouldn't someone tag Mr. Kennedy's 'bold new imaginative program' with its proper age?" "Under the tousled boyish haircut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago.
There is nothing new in the idea of a government being Big Brother to us all. R.Reagan-1960
Love is a word that means something different to one than what it means to another. Example; Do we love a child too much to correct him, or do we love him too little to correct him? Does love overlook, or does love correct?
As for eternal punishment, Does God really punish, or does he give one the choice of two destinies and then allow one to go to the place that he has chosen? If one choses to reject Heaven, and choses Hell instead, would God be just if he refused one to right to spend eternity in the place of his choice?
knightia you said some things that got my attention
What is the "reasonableness"of accepting Jesus?
the answer to this question comes in part in the last thing you said ,well no
i met the next to the last thing you said.
I should be able to see at least in part some of the reasonableness to it all - but it doesn't seem very reasonable.
( even condemning all for the sin of one seems Un-reasonable)
god didn't want things to turn out the way they did ,as Satan had part in it, as well Adam mite not of fully comprehend the act of sin.that sin is why Jesus is so important.with his death and resurrection he has purchased the rite to remove that sin that brings about death.when he has removed all the Evil in the world, and his government has taken control of all things
then there will be peace.his kingdom will never be brought down. he has even promised that the dead will live again,and if they can live up to his standers then they will never die at all.
you all so committed A Threat of etirinity in torture, pain& torment?( the salvation of my soul?)That i will be punished in hell for not excepting heaven& this elusive/exclusivelove ?Why would i believe that& the many other things like it to be"reasonable"?
that thought is not in the BIBLE its form a pagan religion,and was adapted by ancient Catholicism to scare the peoples in to subjection of the church
You only make a choice if you believe theses a choice to be make.
If ppl want to believe god then makes the choices& puts them( the so called non belivers etc / the ppl)into someplace like hell that is there choice to make too believe as they wish.
Heaven& hell & that god as far as i know only exist in a book written by men.All who wish to belive in it are wellcome too- there choice of course.
Aparent punishes or corrects to keep there children safe- to teach them - they dont kill then or there would be no lesson learned? In the name of love of course....
Many kinds of love out there i agree &parenting it seems to cross bounderys titles, relgious lines etc to- in many ways.
Never took any parenting lessions - just on the job training- my children will always be my children - so its ongoing
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Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.-- Ovid (43 B.C.-A.D. 18)
Things ain't what they used to be and probably never was. ~Will Rogers
Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
"Shouldn't someone tag Mr. Kennedy's 'bold new imaginative program' with its proper age?" "Under the tousled boyish haircut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago.
There is nothing new in the idea of a government being Big Brother to us all. R.Reagan-1960
By one man, death came into this world
