god told Adam that if he were to sin that he would die .Satan told Adam that he would gain wisdom and understanding and that he could be like god .he also told him that he would not die.
today we see so many religions that say you don't really die cause you get to go to heaven .and as well if some one should go to hell their still not dead ,which do you believe god or satan ?
I believe God. According to Genisis 5:5, Adam did die a physical death. I don't know of any religions that say you don't "really" die--that's new to me, and I've attended and studied quite a few different ones. The Bible tells us that the dead shall be ressurected, and face the judgement, but it doesn't say we won't die.
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
By "die" concerning Adam, I believe it meant a spiritual death. I think Adam would have died physically perhaps anyway. But he wouldn't have ever experienced death as we know it.
We today, talk of death as a leaving of the physical body. Everyone does that, but in my opinion, not everyone "dies."
The unsaved will spend a conscious eternity suffering death. But it will be an agonizingdeath of the spirit.
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"Error never shows itself in its naked reality in order not to be discovered. On the contrary, it dresses elegantly, so that the unwary may be led to believe that it is more truthful than truth itself."
-Irenaeus of Lyon
lbr indeed the dead will be resurrected,but as you claim to face a judgment. if the penalty for sin is death (ezek.18:4 ) and death accounts for sin .then the resurrected ones would be with out sin .for what reason then do they face a judgment? would you have me believe that they are punished twice for the same sin?
According to Romans 6:23, the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ.
Who's sin brought death upon us? I Corinthians 15:22 says it was Adams, but we all have hope through Christ. Adam's sin brought physical and spiritual death to mankind--man did not know sin before Adam partook of the forbidden fruit.
I wouldn't have you belive anything other than the Bible. I don't "claim" that we are to face judgement, the Bible states it plainly--Hebrews 9:27. Matthew 7:13 warns of a path that leads to destruction. 7:21-23 tells us that those that work iniquity, even though they call on the Lord, will be rejected.Matthew 25 also talks about the judgement--verse 41 specifies that the lost will be cast into everlasting fire.
Death does not account for sin--only obedience to Christ will wash away sin. Death was brought upon us by Adam'ssin, but will not get you remission from it.
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
The judgement is for the separation of the sheep(believers) from the goats(unbelievers), as well as for the judgement of the works of believers. Then rewards will be handed out to believers based on the validity and purity of their works performed during their live after receiving salvation through the finished work of Christ on the cross. These rewards, crowns, will be layed at Jesus feet to honor His sacrifice.Unbelievers will be cast into the lake of fire that was originally intended for only the devil and his unholy angels that rebelled with him, along with the devil and the unholy angels(what we call demons)
I don't quite agree with manuman on a couple of things here.
One, there is a difference in "believers" and Christians. One can believe and not be a Christian. The devils believe and tremble (James 2:19), therefore they are technically "believers", but they won't have a home in heaven. I've never understood why "believer" is often substituted for"Christian". It is, to me anyway, misleading, and gives no glory to Christ. It's similar to "x-Mas"versus "Christmas" to me.
I don't know about certain people recieving a "better" reward than others in heaven. I don't recall reading this anywhere, and Christ implies in the parable of the workers that all with recieve the same reward, regardless if they have worked for God for a long time or a very short time--Matthew 20:1-9
There's numerous verses in the Bible that refer to the judgment. What we are talking about is in referance to the time when God calls everyone before him to pass His judgment upon them. Those that are found to be faithfull and obedient will recieve a home with Him in heaven, those that are not will be cast into torment. There is no in-between, and all with reside eternally in one place or the other.
Chad
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"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
I agree with Manuman here and want to put some scripture in it. By saying this I'm not saying I disagree with Chad.
"The judgement is for the separation of the sheep(believers) from the goats(unbelievers), as well as for the judgement of the works of believers. Yes this is explained in Mt.25 :35-to the end. We have 2 sets of people in that parable. Some are doers of the Word and some are not doers. I would rather call these the ungodly. But..I also agree with Manuman about unbelievers since the greek word to believe means to remain, be persistant and endure. Folks who are not doers are not doing those things.They are lip service only .Then rewards will be handed out to believers based on the validity and purity of their works performed during their live after receiving salvation through the finished work of Christ on the cross. Matt.10:41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.1Cor.3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.2Tim.4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:2 John 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
These rewards, crowns, will be layed at Jesus feet to honor His sacrifice.Unbelievers will be cast into the lake of fire that was originally intended for only the devil and his unholy angels that rebelled with him, along with the devil and the unholy angels(what we call demons) "Manuman
AmenRev.21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
dead or alive ?
