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Old 11-29-2005, 08:53 AM   #1
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Default Satan's knowledge post made me think??

I've heard it said that if you don't believe in God you can't get into heaven. So the big question is if you don't believe in Satan can you go to hell??

Seems like a double standard.

Perhaps you could enlighten me.
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:46 AM   #2
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It's not a double standard. I'm trying to come up with an anology that makes sense. Maybe this will help.

Say you are lost, and are given directions to get where you need to go. If you don't believe the directions, you won't get where you need to be, andyou will still be lost.

Or, have you ever told a child "don't touch, or you will get hurt"? Does it make a difference if they believe you or not--will it not hurt if they ignore you? Or heard of someone who refused to believe the doctor when they were told they had an illness? Does their disbelief mean they aren't sick?

I'm having a hard time coming up with something better, but hopefully this makes sense.

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Old 11-29-2005, 09:53 AM   #3
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Say you are lost, and are given directions to get where you need to go. If you don't believe the directions, you won't get where you need to be, andyou will still be lost.
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Makes alot of sense to me!
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Old 11-29-2005, 09:57 AM   #4
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Makes sense to me.
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If you are being serious and not just 'funning', I'll be glad to offer some insight. Just say the word--honestly now.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:03 PM   #6
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[/color]I've heard it said that if you don't believe in God you can't get into heaven. So the big question is if you don't believe in Satan can you go to hell??
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Satan has nothing to do with it. Salvation is by......

Romans10:9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Handles...Do you believe enough to confess Him as your Lord and Savior? Do you feel His Spirit drawing you to surrender yur life over to Him. Then don't hold back. Salvation is only through Jesus.
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:12[/color]Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
You will find all kinds of arguement on this forum But one thing we have in common ...we all have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ to be our Savior and have trusted in His sacrifice on the cross to take care of our sins. AS far as doctrine....my friend the New Testament is written on a 5th grade decoding level. If you will read it through and pray for God to give you understanding you will never be the same. I wouldn't trust anyone's religion on here. Know from first hand experience by .....
John8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Reding His word for yourself.

10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Handles your Salvation is believed on in the heart. For the heart is the center of our being. Either the heart is wicked and will produce wickedness or you can be born again unto holiness. The Lord will cause you to grow. YOu can't do nothing apart from Him.You must be Born Again.
Step One ....Read your New Testament and ask God for understanding. I believe He will honor that first step.

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PS The Word will reveal who Jesus is and who your enemy is. The Word is a light to shine the way for you.
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:25 PM   #7
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You left out a few Chuck!

Matthew 10:22, 24:13, Mark 13:13--those that endure to the end shall be saved

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, he that does not believe shall be condemned (I think this is the specific verse Handles is referring to)

Acts 2:38 Repent and be baptized for the remission of sins (one cannot be saved without remission of sin)

I Peter 3:20,21

Just calling on Christ will not save you--Matthew 7:21--obedience is required.

Handles, if you are sincerely interested, there is lots more information to be had. The Bible is the one and only true source, but a lot of opinions and some guidance can be offered here.

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Old 11-29-2005, 04:30 PM   #8
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and what about John 3:16 how could you forget that one?
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:51 PM   #9
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I've heard it said that if you don't believe in God you can't get into heaven. So the big question is if you don't believe in Satan can you go to hell??

Seems like a double standard.

Perhaps you could enlighten me.


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[6] Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
[7] If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
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Old 11-29-2005, 05:14 PM   #10
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John 14:6,7
(6) jesus said to him :"i am the way and the trouth and the life.no one comes to the father except through me.
(7) if you men had know me, you would have know my father also ;from this monment on you know him and have seen him.
after trying to read it in that text i wonderd what it would look like in english
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