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Old 11-17-2005, 07:52 AM   #1
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came up in the death penalty thread. Are some sins worse than others? does God prioritize sin. I'm sure I remember a study some time back which shows scripturally that all sin is equally detestible to God. Little white lies and whoppers. Adultery and murder. All sin crucifies Christ all over again.

Am I wrong here? Does anybody have any verses off the top of your head? I'll research it as time permits today, but your help would be appreciated.
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JIm,How bout these scriptures
12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
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Eto, I think you are right on sin being sin, According to God's word all sin can be forgiven except the sin of blasheming the Holy Ghost and I'm not sure what all that envelopes unless it would be the complete denial of God and hisWord.
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:20 AM   #4
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For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
That is the last verse in Romans 6, through out the entire chapter there is not a single mention of different levels of sin, the final verse spells out what sin earns one.............death!
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JIm,How bout these scriptures
12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
Good stuff here, eh? I'm still kind of digesting it.

Isn't the lesson, in a nutshell, that the more we sin, the more grace we need, and that Christ took the stripes for our sin so that we won't have to?

Sometimes, I feel like Wesley Snipes (I forget the movie.) He kept saying, "explain it to me like I'm a fifth grader."
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:23 AM   #6
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For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
That is the last verse in Romans 6, through out the entire chapter there is not a single mention of different levels of sin, the final verse spells out what sin earns one.............death!
Taz, as I've started studying this, this verse is the first that I have come across that really speaks to me. Funny we should both find it!
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:28 AM   #7
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We also know that in heaven there will be varying rewards for God's servants (Matt. 5:12, 46, 6:1-27; Luke 6:23, 35; Eph. 6:8; Col. 3:24; Heb. 11:26). If God distinguishes between different Christian's degrees of reward in Heaven based on the degree of their good works, then why would He not distinguish between degrees of punishment in Hell based on varying degrees of sin? In support of this idea consider these verses:
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Proverbs 6:16-19 lists seven things God hates, these seem to be called out as especially troublsome.
Luke 12:47-48 tells of differing punishments for servants based on knowledge of master"™s will.
Mark 3 and Matthew 12 speak of some sins which are forgivable and one which is not.
Matthew 10:15 says there will be more tolerable suffering for various cities in Hell than for others.
Matthew 16:27 says that Christ will give to each man according to what he has done, and yet we know this cannot be salvation-related, for salvation is by grace through faith alone, not by works (Eph. 2:8-9).
1 Corinthians 6:18 lists sexual sins as greater than others.
Revelation 20:12-15 and 22:12 likewise show a judgment of works (based on books of works) for what men have done - but this is not the judgment regarding heaven and hell (which is based on the Book of Life). It seems then that these additional books may be for rewards and punishments.
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So yes, in a sense "all sin is sin." But this is like saying "all pain is pain." It would be a contradiction to deny it. But this does not mean that all pain is equally intense, nor does it mean that all sin is exactly as evil as any other sin, nor does it mean that the consequences and punishments will be the same.
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Old 11-17-2005, 08:29 AM   #8
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Taz, as I've started studying this, this verse is the first that I have come across that really speaks to me. Funny we should both find it!
Eto that can only mean one of two things, either great minds think alike[8D]or the Spirit moved us both in the same direction at the same time!

I lean towards the second choice myself.
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I'm with strut and Reb on this one:

1) To sin or blaspheme against the Holy Ghost. AsI understand the scriptures, there is no forgiveness for this. (By our own pride and rebellion, we take our own spiritual life and cannot return to the presence of God)

2) Murder. This can be pardoned, but I think will take some real accountability and discussion with Christ and the individual from whom we have taken life.Maybe forgiven, maybe not. Depends on our hearts and what God's will is

2b) Abortion - Again forgiveable, but we have taken a life of an individual who had no say.

2c) Suicide- We have not taken someone else life, but we have taken our own (physically)

3) Sexual sin, espcially adultery. Certainly forgiveable, but tough. Think of the disaster this causes in families. Such pain and hurt!

Any sin is sin. God does not look upon any sin with least degree of allowance. However, some are greater than others I believe.

God Bless,

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I don't think that there is any question that there are differing degrees of sins and there ill effect. The beginning place is that we are all sinners by nature--meaning that it is natural for us to go our own way, or to be in rebellion toward God in our independence.That rebellion takes many forms and manifests itself in as many ways as there are people.The sins that Porter has mentioned are certainly grievous.I would add to that the sin of self righteousness and those that 'use' religion' to displace an actual surrender to the Lord's authority in their lives. I believe this to be one of the most evil of all forms of rebellion--a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof--the power being Christ's authority.Why else would Christ show mercy to the woman caught in adultery, and then call the Pharisees vipers? The only people He ever showed any real disdain for were the 'religious hypocrites'.
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