Alex could you share your understanding of these verses thanks 2 Peter 3 10-1310But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting F10 unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
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Despite the merciful patience of God, the Day of the Lord will come! Having just been reminded that with the Lord "one day is as a thousand years" (v. 8), it is clearly possible to think of that Day as covering a lengthy period of time, and not a few brief days. Here Peter telescopes together events that other scriptures indicate cover perhaps as long as 1000 years, as he does also in Acts. 2:14-21. The coming as a thief in the night is used by both Jesus and Paul to refer to the initial appearance of the Lord to take the church to be with himself (see Matthew. 24:36-43, 1 Thessalonians. 4:13-5:5, Revelation. 3:3). As a thief removes treasure from a house without the knowledge of its inhabitants, so the Lord will remove his church from the world. His presence (parousia) then continues on earth behind the scenes of judgment until his unveiling (apokalupsis) in power and great glory, when every eye will see him (Matthew. 24:29-30, Revelation. 1:7). During that time the terrible predictions of the prophets concerning the darkening of the sun and moon, and the falling of the stars, will be fulfilled. This is followed, according to many, by a thousand years of the righteous rule of Christ over the earth (judging evil with a rod of iron), and then occurs the event which Peter now describes---the destruction of the present heavens and earth. It would be as previously stated, by fire. The structure (Gk. stoichea) of the universe would melt and the present civilization of men would disappear. This would complete the predictions of the prophets concerning the Day of the Lord.
3:11 WHAT MANNER OF PERSONS: With striking incisiveness Peter returns to his exhortation to godly living, set against the fearful background of the Day of the Lord. Personal character is all that will be left after the destruction of the heavens and the earth. His appeal is to the desire in each of us to live worthwhile, meaningful lives. Holy behavior toward others and genuine worship toward God are the two qualities that will survive and be honored beyond the conflicts of time.
3:12 -13 THE DAY OF GOD: This is not the same as the Day of the Lord of v. 10. It is what believers wait for and even, by godly living, hasten in its coming; and it is the reason why the present heavens and earth must be destroyed (Gk. di hen "because of which"), but it is described as the new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. It is, therefore, the eternal state, pictured in vivid imagery in the New Jerusalem of Revelation. 21 and 22. In the present age, righteousness is under constant attack; in the millennium righteousness will be the dominant lifestyle, though evil is present; in the new heavens and earth, righteousness will dwell, i.e. be at home, in its natural environment, without having to struggle with sin or weakness.
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Please excuse my ignorance. Is Peter talking about the evil people and their works will be burned up. Or the evil people and the planet earth both will be burned up.
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That is Good question, we know that the wicked will be harvested as the tares in the parable and burned, so in fact the bible teaches a removal of the wicked not of the righteous as pre-millianist teach.
Then after a period of a thousand years of the messiah reign ,the earth will literally burned and all the works of men thereoff will melt and then The Lord will recreate a new earth for us to dwel in peace eternally with him.
Funny that in the program Nova ,they show how some planets have almost a new shiny surface with hardly any meteor strikes, leading to belief scientist that planets regenerated the surface every 60,000 years or so, the process is quite simple theinnercore temperature rises so hot that it melts the crust or surface and the old surface is taken in as melted matter and a new surface becomes as it cools down, so everything that was on the surface literallydissapears melted within.
Pretty much what the Prophets of old and Peter describes.
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were do you get suchideas, the earth will never be destroid,but the works of satan and those of evil men that would try to remove the true chistion fath from the earth ,that is what it means.
fire is cimbalic in this text, it means it will be gone
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Where do you get suchideas. The earth will never be destroyed,but the works of Satan and those of evil men that would try to remove the true, Christion, faith from the earth. That is what it means.
The fire is symbolic in this text, it means it will be gone.
Cataway I am not so certian thatall ofit is symbolic, when you read about the ' flagging/marking of bones' in other scripture(Old Testament)and, the hail stones of hugh size(New Testament).... maybe it isn't symbolic.
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Cataway in the case of burning wood, you have a residue of ash left.
When you burn a sun out, it absorbs everything in its near-space, no residue is left. Nothing is left.
Cataway something to ponder when you are trying to understand if the burning of Earth is symbolic or not.
What are the deminsions of the new Holy City that comes down and rests on the new earth?
The book of Revelation tells you. Think about the scale of a city that size(hight and width), does it fit the scale of the earth we know today?
Does it make sense to you that something the size of the new Holy city will sit on a planet the size of Earth?
Is the scale of the new Holy City just symbolic too? Just something for you to ponder.
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Malachi 4 1-3 1For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. 2But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. 4[/color]5And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
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