Intelligent design

elgallo114 · 10-21-2005, 01:54 AM

Here's a good one. My kids go to private school, so it's not affecting me at all. I'm just wondering what you think.

Is it better to have Intelligent Design taught at public schools instead of just evolution? Or is it just another step in the wrong direction? I just finished reading a lot about Intelligent Design. I don't really like it. It basically says evolution is just a theory and has many flaws (that part I like) and that the biology of earth could only have comeby design because it's too complex to have been an accident. But it gives no explanation to who created everything. After reading the article, which was fairly biased against teaching it, it left me thinking that a student could just as well decide it had to be Aliens who created life on earth. I do like the fact that at least someone is trying to force schools to stop teaching evolution as fact, but I'm not sure this theory isn't going to lead our children in just another wrong direction. I know what you all think about evolution, that's easy. But what do you think about introducing this Intelligent Design theory? Keep in mind, I'm not just talking about your children, I know what they're learning. I'm worried about other children who might not be being raised in a Christian house. If we taught that evolution is not fact, but just someone's theory, it would make it easier for them to search for the truth on their own. What do ya'll think?

Tazman · 10-21-2005, 04:22 AM

In areas such as this it is a parents responsibility to teach their children at home what the truth is and explain to them what is going on at school. One must explain to thier child that they can learn a theory and not accept it as fact because they know the truth, God created all!

Given a choice between evolution versus intelligent design being taught I would prefer the intelligent design being taught, at least it gives credit to a higher power, which to any logical human being leads one right to God!

Chuck7 · 10-21-2005, 04:31 AM

Here is how I teach the subject,

Johnny who made these beautiful birds ,planets etc.?

Johnny " dah..God , Jesus???"
Me ......And what makes you think that ,says I
Sally Ann " I heard it in Church.
Me REALLY ....TEll ME ABOUT IT!

Teachers are not supposed toproselite.. BUT ..students can ask questions, bring Bibles to public school and

TELL ME!!

And off we go

Usually takes us to the cross somehow.

And when we read in text books my students have learned to say YEAH .....RIGHT when they read phrases like billions of years ago and eveloution. I said they are guessing That is NOT FACT! Just a smoke screen to keep one from believing in God's Word.

Tazman · 10-21-2005, 05:08 AM

Chuck the world needs more teachers like you!

I check out my kids text books a lot and the all say that Evolution is a THEORY and that is all it is. My kids know the truth because as parents we have taught them that.

elgallo114 · 10-21-2005, 05:10 AM

That's my point. I know it's the parents responsibility, but in today's world, kids spend a lot of time in school and away from their parents. It's kinda the same as the other thread about media.If something gets pounded in their heads enough, they might gravitate towards it, or at least accept and tolorate it. I'm not worried about kids who have parents like us that teach them the right way. I'm worried about society in general. The kids who do not receive any religious teaching from parents, will be force fed evolution with no other alternative. Therefore, when they grow older and the opportunity arises, they may shun religion just because they've been brain washed to believe a theory that is incorrect. Even by purely scientific standards, evolution is flawed and unprovable. Yet, at least in public schools in my area, they teach it as fact. I have poured over my son's text books (6th grade) and found it to be presented as fact. When I questioned his teachers about this, they said it is the only "accepted" theory to teach in schools and therefore they don't bring up the fact that it might not be true. I couldn't believe my ears. Only one teacher had a problem with this, yet he had given up "fighting the system" (his words). I'm not sure I really like the way Intelligent Design is presented, but maybe it's better than leaving the kids thinking that evolution is true. We always tell our kids to listen to their teachers, and yet we allow the teachers, and the states, to present them with falsehoods and give them no alternative. In other words, if we give them more than one alternative theory, they might not be so closed minded in the future. I guess one can only hope that when these children who are not taught about God at home reach adulthood, God will call to them, and they will hear.

elgallo114 · 10-21-2005, 05:15 AM

Oh, by the way, they may be able to take Bibles to school, but my son was told that he cannot share it with anyone, or read it aloud!!!!! One teacher went as far to tell my child that he could no longer wear his cross outside of his shirt. He had to keep it hidden because it might offend other kids. I demanded a face to face with this teacher and the principle. This meeting lasted exactly 8 minutes. Needless to say, he wears his cross however he wants and proudly. So much for us 'religious folk' being meek and mild!

Tazman · 10-21-2005, 05:51 AM

elgallo what type of private school does your son go to? My kids go to public school, they still celebrate Christmas and Easter and I have seen more then one kid wearing a shirt expressing thier love of Christ.

david m · 10-21-2005, 07:02 AM

i prefer that evolution be taught in school, as it is a scientific theory.

intelligent design is a thinly veiled reference to religion, which is more appropriately taught at home or in the church of your choice.

Sylvan · 10-21-2005, 09:29 AM

If the subject is science, then I believe it is appropriate that scientific theory be taught and inappropriate forcompeting theories such as intelligent design and/or religious based theories regarding the origin of man and the universe. If the subject is philosophy or religion then intelligent design and creationism respectively are appropriate.

Chuck7 · 10-21-2005, 12:30 PM

Thanks Taz ...
It is easy to see which parents spend time with their students and which do not. Those who do generally have success. Biblically speaking it is the parents obligation to teach their children the right way. Most parents don't these days. Therefore; the classroom really is a mission field.
I have only gotten in trouble once when I had aJehovah's Witness student.
CHuck7