WHY IS IT THAT EVERYTIME, PRESIDENT BUSH OR ONE OF HIS CABINET MEMBERS SPEAK OF DIVIDING ISRAEL AND SIDE WITH THE PALESTINIANS, WE GET HIT WITH A DISASTER ?, WHEN CONDOLEEZA RICE WENT TO ISRAEL AND BLAME THE ISRAELIS AND SIDED WITH THE PALESTINIANS, KATRINA WAS BORNED WITHIN HOURS OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA, DO I NEED TOSAY WHAT HAPPENED?[/align][/align]EVERYTIME THIS GOVERMENT SIDES WITH ISRAEL ENEMIES, SOMETHING HAPPENS, TODAY YOU PROBABLY SAW IT AND HEARD IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES;[/align]MY COMMENTS IN BLUE[/align][/align][/align]Bush Praises Abbas in White House Visit </NYT_HEADLINE>
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush said Thursday he has never been more confident of peace between Israel and the Palestinians but ''old feuds aren't settled easily'' and it may not happen before he leaves office in 2009.
''It takes a while,'' Bush said as he lauded Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, his aspirations for a Palestinian state and his plans for legislative elections in January. ''We will work hard to lay that foundation so that the process becomes irreversible,'' the president said.
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In June 2002, Bush set 2005 as his goal for Palestinian statehood.( THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF YACOV'S TROUBLES)
At a joint news conference after an hour-long meeting in the Oval Office on Thursday, Bush cautioned the Palestinian leader that ''the way forward is confronting the threat armed gangs present to creation of a democratic Palestine.''
HEY ! ,HOW COME ABBAS DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT ?
WHERE WAS THE ISRAELI SIDE ON THIS MEETING ?
But Bush did not directly question Abbas' intention to permit political participation by Hamas and other Palestinian groups that have carried out terror attacks against Israelis. Nor did Bush publicly urge Abbas to screen out extremists in those groups from participating, a proposal discussed with other Palestinian officials before Abbas arrived in Washington for their first White House meeting since May.
OF COURSE NOT, HE IS AN ARAB BUTT KISSER
In Jerusalem, Zalman Shoval, a former Israeli ambassador to Washington and an adviser to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, said he was not concerned. Shoval said he was confident Bush had told Abbas privately that Hamas should not play a role in the January elections.
WHAT HE IS GOT X-RAY VISION AND SUPER HEARING NOW ?
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said the U.S. view remains that Hamas is a terrorist organization. But he added, ''It is also the case that how the Palestinian political process unfolds and evolves is a question for the Palestinian people.''
OH YEAH, I GUESS WHEN THE 40 MILLION HISPANICS IN THE USA BEGIN TO ASK FOR THEIR OWN STATE HOOD, EVERYTHING WILL BE PEACHY IN THE US GOVERMENT, JUST RETRIBUTION ,DON'T YOU THINK?
The Palestinian view is that allowing everybody to participate in the election makes it more legitimate, while the Bush administration considers participation by armed militia a contradiction to building a democratic state, said a senior U.S. official.
And yet, the administration is not going to prescribe election laws for the Palestinians, said the official, who refused to be identified.
BUT DID ISSUE A WARNING TO ISRAEL
Offering assurances, Saeb Erekat, senior Palestinian negotiator, said on Israel's Channel 2 TV that ''no one can get their political goals through the means of force.''
HYPOCRITS !
In a harsh reaction, meanwhile, Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri dismissed Bush's remarks in support of Palestinian statehood. ''This statement and this pledge to establish a state added nothing new for us,'' he said in Gaza City. ''It's an old promise without any credit, while we are witnessing unlimited support for the (Israeli) occupation.''
At their news conference, Bush was unqualified in his praise of Abbas as ''a man devoted to peace and to his people's aspiration for a state of their own.''
''Today the Palestinian people are closer to realizing their aspirations,'' Bush said.
Supporting Abbas, Bush urged Israel to stop constructing settlements on the West Bank. He assured Abbas he shared his vision of two states living side by side in peace and security.
''Israel should not undertake any activity that contravenes its roadmap obligations,'' Bush said, referring to a blueprint for peacemaking approved by the United States, the United Nations, the European Union and Russia.
(IS THIS NOT PROPHECY IN THE MAKING?) SO NOW WE ARE GETTING DICTATE WHAT WE SHOULD DO OR NOT OR ELSE ?
EZEQUIEL CHAPTER 38-39
Without elaboration, Bush said Israel would be ''held to account'' for any actions that hamper peacemaking or burden the lives of Palestinians. ( PROBABLY WILL BE INVADED BY THE ARMIES OF THE BEAST)
But Bush said he was a ''heck of a lot more confident'' of peace prospects than when he first took office five years ago. Both Abbas and Sharon are committed to making peace, he said.
Abbas, in response, insisted that Israel lift curbs on Palestinian travel in the West Bank, saying the restrictions had caused the Palestinians ''hardship and humiliation.''
YEAH SO THEY CAN SEND A WAVE OF SUICIDE BOMBERS ?
The Palestinian leader also criticized Israel's security wall, particularly its location in Jerusalem, where the Palestinians intended to establish the capital of their state.
WHAT A COINCIDENCE
He assured Bush that election of a Palestinian legislature in January would establish one law to govern the area.
YEAH SURE LAW,HUH ?
Leveling demands on Israel, he said Palestinians must be able to cross between Gaza, which they took over after Israel's withdrawal last month, and the West Bank. Roadblocks must be removed, settlement construction halted and construction of a security wall suspended, he said.
AHA ! ROAD MAP TO PEACE UNDER PALESTINIAN TERMS AND DICTATION !
The roadblocks, imposed by Israel in response to deadly terror attacks, ''unfortunately turned the lives of Palestinians into hardship, suffering, humiliation,'' Abbas said. He called the imprisonment of Palestinians ''a very sensitive issue.''
I GUESS WE ARE WORTH NOTHING, AND THE BLOODSHED THEY HAVE CAUSE IS LIKE KILLING A DOG IN THE STREET.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY OF HIS PEOPLE IN THE USA INCLUDING US HERE IN FLORIDA, AFTER WILMA GETS THROUGH WITH US.
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I tend to share your frustration, Alex. However, it's no secret that the U.S. is a big supporter of Israel. That's why the Palastinians hate us so much. I think the President, any of them, has to give the appearance of just trying to help the peace process. But it's not secret who we want to win in the end. If we don't "warn" Israel about doing certain things, then if they do happen, the world looks at us as encouraging or supporting. For example, when Israel said recently it would use "all means at it's disposal" to thwart off missile attacks, the U.S. immediately warned them about using weapons of mass destruction. I would think the U.S. would be relieved if one of it's enemies were wiped out in a single day, but it can't say that. I think the U.S. is just trying to look like the good guy. Unfortunately, to people like us, it makes them look worse. Personally, I would rather we took strong firm stances and either supported a country or not. If the rest of the world doesn't like it, they are free to say so.
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Premillennialists maintain that the modern nation of Israel is the recipient of various promises made in Scripture, and that it plays a prominent and continuing role in God"™s scheme of things. This contention has had a profound impact upon U.S. foreign policy, and in the way people around the world"”especially in the Middle East"”perceive America. It must surely be a shock for many people to learn that the Bible depicts no such favored status. All people stand on level ground at the foot of the cross of Christ. God is no respecter of persons, and makes no distinctions between people on the basis of ethnicity (Acts 10:34-35; Romans 2:11,28-29; Galatians 3:28). The promises that were made to physical Israel in the Old Testament were fulfilled long ago.
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Communique:21 October 2005 [View this article online] [Discuss this topic on BackSpin]
'ROAD APARTHEID' DEBUNKED
Dear HonestReporting Subscriber, On Sunday (Oct. 16), Palestinian terrorists killed three young Israelis in a drive-by terrorist shooting in the West Bank (pictured at right). In response to pointed warnings of more attacks of this type, the IDF imposed restrictions on Palestinian traffic on certain West Bank roads.
Though the road closures were temporary and aimed at preventing further loss of life, several media outlets quickly spun this story in a different direction "• suggesting theyare part of a larger Israeli plan to implement 'road apartheid' in the West Bank. The Guardian stated:
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The Israeli military has blocked Palestinians from driving on the main artery through the West Bank in a first step towards what Israeli human rights groups say is total "road apartheid" being enforced throughout the occupied territory.
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The New York Times also quoted a Palestinian official making the 'road apartheid' claim, and The Scotsman said:
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On the ground, the condition of Palestinian civilians seems to be deteriorating further... Israel is moving ahead with plans to make permanent a ban on Palestinian use of main roads in the West Bank.
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Two falsities are disseminated with these media-driven claims: 1) Israel is not 'moving ahead' with plans to 'permanently ban' Palestinian traffic on West Bank roads. What has occurred "• in the wake of Sunday's shooting and the many others that preceded it "• is further discussion of a how separate road systems might make the West Bank safer for travel, given the ongoing threat of drive-by terrorist fire. Such discussions are always conducted while balancing the humanitarian concerns to peaceful Palestinians. 2) The term 'apartheid' is once again, absurdly brought into the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. HonestReporting previously provided a side-by-side comparison of the two situations that debunked the association vis-a-vis the security fence. That comparison is just as relevant here. And as former US Mideast negotiator Dennis Ross stated in an op-ed this week:
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Yasir Arafat loved to equate the Palestinian struggle for statehood with the struggle of South Africans against apartheid, but his was always a false analogy. In South Africa, less than 15 percent of the population controlled all the power and wealth and subjected the other 85 percent to a degrading, inhuman and segregated existence...
Compare that to the Palestinian movement for self-determination. Arabs today remain a minority in the area that encompasses Israel, the West Bank and Gaza. To be sure, given demographic trends, Jews will become a minority in that area within this decade, but even by 2050, Arabs would outnumber Jews by only 60 percent to 40 percent.
The international community supports a two-state solution because it recognizes that there are two national movements with populations in rough equality. That was never the case in South Africa.
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As Israel continues to consider methods of protecting its citizenry from Palestinian terror, HonestReporting encourages subscribers to be on the lookout in your local media for unfounded claims of West Bank 'apartheid roads', and respond with the facts if they appear.
Thank you for your ongoing involvement in the battle against media bias. HonestReporting
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Moose says- It must surely be a shock for many people to learn that the Bible depicts no such favored status.
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1Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Gen.12:1-3 KJV.
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"There's room at the cross for you."
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV.
I believe if we as a nation, get on ourknees and fervently pray, then and only then will God bless the our nation..
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"There's room at the cross for you."
Jesus was asked by His disciples whether He would restore the kingdom to Israel at that time, to which He replied:
[blockquote] Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." (Acts 1:6-8)
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Jesus' answer implied that although the time of favor for Israel was at that moment to pass over to the Gentiles temporarely so they could be added to the tree which is Israel ,not that church would replace Israel but that the gentile believers became part of the common wealth of Israel, there would be a time when God would restore again the "Kingdom to Israel". This truth is clearly taught throughout the Scriptures: after the fullness of the Gentiles is brought into the kingdom of God, He will again give His ancient people, the Jews, another time of grace and favor.
There are a number of verses in the New Testament which further spell out this principle. Peter, speaking to the Jews, said:
[blockquote] And He shall send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began. (Acts 3:20-21)( Israel restoration began in 1948)
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Later in the book of Acts, James says:
[blockquote] Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written: 'After this I will return And will rebuild the tabernacle of David, which has fallen down; I will rebuild its ruins, And I will set it up'.(Acts 15:14-16)
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It is quite clear from these verses that before "restoring the kingdom to Israel" and building "again the tabernacle of David", God would turn in grace to the Gentiles and call out of them a people unto His name. After this God promises to return and build again the tabernacle of David.
This agrees with two other passages which state that when the fullness of the time of the Gentiles is fulfilled, Jerusalem will again be restored to Jewish sovereignty.
[blockquote] ... Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled (Luke 21:24)
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In Romans Paul states:
[blockquote] For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob."(Romans 11:25-26)
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Here the same point is stressed: the completion of God's purposes with the Gentiles marks the beginning of His renewed grace to the people of Israel. After the time of the Gentiles has been fulfilled, after the fullness of the Gentiles has come into the kingdom, then ALL ISRAEL will be saved, the
[blockquote] "...times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord". (Acts 3:19)
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This agrees with the many Old Testament passages which clearly refer to an eternal purpose of God for His ancient people - eternal promises that will be fulfilled to them, not just in a temporary way as if they were only God's example from ancient times for the "Church Age", but fulfilled practically, literally and completely.
Paul, in his fundamental chapters 9, 10 and 11 of the Epistle to the Romans, teaches these same principles concerning the Jewish people:
[blockquote] I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! (Romans 11:1)
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It is obviously the plan of God to receive them back in mercy:
[blockquote] For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. (Romans 11:29)
(so much for those who say all gifts are done away with)
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There are many Old Testament prophecies which have not yet had their fulfillment, and cannot in all honesty be explained away as having been spiritually fulfilled through the first coming of Christ. The New Testament also makes clear reference to prophecies that are yet to be fulfilled. Only in the light of these New Testament verses do the as yet unfulfilled Old Testament prophecies make sense. For example, it was spoken by Simeon at the birth of Jesus:
[blockquote] For my eyes have seen Your salvation which You have prepared before the face of all peoples, a light to bring revelation to the Gentiles, and the glory of Your people Israel ... Behold, this Child is destined for the fall and rising of many in Israel ...(Luke 2: 30-34)
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It should be evident from these verses that Jesus would be first a light to the Gentiles and cause the fall of many of His own people, but afterwards He would become the glory of Israel and cause the rising again of many in Israel. Such New Testament promises underline that all the glory God has promised through the prophets for Israel in the latter days will indeed be revealed:
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The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, the leopard shall lie down with the young goat. (Isaiah 11:6)
The people shall beat their swords into plowshares. (Isaiah 2:4)
The nations shall come up to Jerusalem to learn the ways of the Lord. (Isaiah 2:3)
The Lord will be King in Jerusalem and reign on His holy hill where He desires to dwell forever. (Psalms 2:6)
Israel will be back in her land that God promised to her as en everlasting possession. (Isaiah 11:10-12)
Righteousness and peace will flow like a mighty river from Jerusalem and cover the earth like the seas. (Isaiah 11:9)
The Lord will become the glory of His people Israel. (Luke 2:32)
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There are but a few of the prophecies which have not yet been fulfilled but are promised by God. As Jesus said:
[blockquote] Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. (Matthew 5:17-18)
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This emphasizes that everything the prophets foretold will be fulfilled, not just convenient portions of it. Jesus Himself states that He will see to it that all the prophecies will come to pass before any of God's word is removed. This includes those prophecies which were not fulfilled by Jesus' first coming.
It therefore is right, in the light of these clear New Testament passages, to expect a literal fulfillment of all that has been promised through Israel's prophets concerning her future.
[blockquote] Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness! ... For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? (Romans 11: 12, 15)(because God blinded Israel ,He then will give the Jews also the Resurrection)
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What a wonderful time in which to live!
Recognizing this truth brings the apostle Paul to great joy.you Gentiles ought also to share in that joy, for in Christ we are allowed to inherit with Israel all these biblical promises which are yet to be fulfilled.Israel is also yours to cherish and to protect.
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For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us. (2 Corinthians 1:20)
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Not for nothing did Christ teach us to pray: Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
It is difficult to see how the first coming of Christ could have fulfilled all of the promises which have clearly been made by God. The prophets foretold that there would be a day on earth, under the reign of the Messiah in Jerusalem with His nation when:
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1. All wars would cease.
2. Each man would live "under his fig tree" in equality and justice.
3. The child would play with the viper so that there would be harmony between mankind and the animal world (no more killing of whales).
4. Nature would be fully restored: the trees would "clap their hands" and the Dead Sea would become a sweet water lake.
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The Jewish people know that these are to be the fruits of the coming of the Messiah, and so find it difficult to believe that He has already come since these things as yet have not been fulfilled. We believe with Paul that the Messiah has come once; and we join him in rejoicing at the restoration of Israel, for we know that it signals the return of the Messiah and the fulfillment of all the prophecies, for:
[blockquote] For the Lord shall build up Zion; He shall appear in His glory. (Psalms 102:16) For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all. Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out! "For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has become His counselor? Or who has first given to Him and it shall be repaid to him?" For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen. (Romans 11:32-36)
Shalom
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MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON ON US IN THE USA
On Sunday (Oct. 16), Palestinian terrorists killed three young Israelis in a drive-by terrorist shooting in the West Bank (pictured at right). In response to pointed warnings of more attacks of this type, the IDF imposed restrictions on Palestinian traffic on certain West Bank roads.
