"Aiming" Thread

LBR · 09-17-2005, 11:36 AM

Removed due to the lack of relevance given for this forum. Not because I thought it was offensive, or because anyone was threatening to leave over it, or anything other than lack of relevance.

Lizzie, in reply to your comments,I don't have any daughters, so maybe that's why I don't get it.

The picture didn't show use, any more than a display does. The caption even said the tile underneath would pass the sanitary requirements for a medical operating room--the ones on display at the stores couldn't make that statement. Many magazines on eye-level display at any store (any store that sells any magazines anyway) are--to me anyhow--waaaaaaayyyyyy more off-color--men and women in revealing clothing and less--does anyone boycott these stores due to this, or even tell the manager that you find it offensive? I'm serious. If you do avoid these stores, where in the world do you shop? Do you allow your kids to go in these stores?

Reb, I appreciate you editing your post, but something else I noticed. Not picking on you, it's just a good example. I didn't see anyone mention it, other than me. For some reason I have a feeling that if certain others that are members here had posted it or anything similar--here on a religion forum--the roof would have been raised over it. Wonder why I have that feeling? I'm sure nobody here would pick on one person whose beliefs don't go along with theirs, while letting another who agrees with them slide.........would they?

Chad

Leafrivermac · 09-17-2005, 11:54 AM

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something else I noticed. Not picking on you, it's just a good example. I didn't see anyone mention it, other than me. For some reason I have a feeling that if certain others that are members here had posted it or anything similar--here on a religion forum--the roof would have been raised over it. Wonder why I have that feeling? I'm sure nobody here would pick on one person whose beliefs don't go along with theirs, while letting another who agrees with them slide.........would they?

At any rate Chad, I appreciate that and can guarantee you that no true Apostolic would have made such a post or responded in like manner with it.

leafriverlizzie · 09-17-2005, 12:42 PM

LBR, I didn't mean for my statement to be taken as a threat. It was merely a statement. On the most part, when I am in a room with other people, out of decency the other people do not make rude jokes or comments. Sometimes I might walk in a room where people are making rude jokes or comments. If I see that they continue, then I simply leave. I don't make any remarks about their rudeness, I just leave, because I choose not to be around that type of talk. I was offended by both people on that "aim" thread. I didn't comment on either one. I only decided to comment when you said you didn't understand why a lady would take offense. Then and only then did I give my view of why I would take offense. I realize that men have a different way of expressing things than women, especially on a hunting forum. That is why I stay away from the other areas of this forum. I figured it would be different in the religion forum, more decency, more respect, less crudeness. I don't expect to see those magazines you mentioned in the food section of the store. I know where they are located and I avoid that area. Just like I try to avoid websites that are not to my standards. Do you see what I mean? I just felt that the "aim" thread was located in the wrong part of the hunting forum.

Rebel Hog · 09-17-2005, 12:56 PM

Sis.Lizzie, I did edit my post and Apologized to anyone who was offended,
did anyone else do the same?

LBR · 09-17-2005, 03:36 PM

Lizzie, I don't think I've been down to your part of the state--at least not shopping--but I've been in stores like Wal-Mart and such from Mississippi toOntario, Canada, and many states in-between. Yes, there is a main section for magazines you can avoid, but I don't recall every being in a store that didn't have them at every check-out aisle--they simply cannot be completely avoided if you buy anything. That's why I wondered if anyone has a particular store, or type of store they shop at that doesn't have them, or at least has spoken to a store manager about their offensive nature and the impossibility of avoiding them completely. If that thread was that offensive, Iwould think that some of those magazine covers would be VERY offensive.

I consider myself a gentleman, but I don't feel offended by advertisements of feminine products I see in stores. I'm not much of a shopper, and sometimes I wind up on the wrong aisle looking for what I need. I'm not going to ask a store manager to put up warning signs or a gate to that section so I don't accidently wind up there again. Those things are a fact of life, and I am an adult who understands that. I'm not going to raise a discussion about it, but I can handle the facts of life.

I do agree that this forum was the wrong place for it, at least without any comments that might tie it in. It did immediately make me think of certain "televangelists" I've seen, that will throw up one verse from the Bible, then go on a rant and never even come close to that verse or any other--just making promises of this and that to those that will send in their money, and the more they send the more they will get in return. However, I know that not everyone thinks like I do, and most folks would probably never make the same connection.

Chad

Leafrivermac · 09-17-2005, 03:49 PM

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That's why I wondered if anyone has a particular store, or type of store they shop at that doesn't have them,

In our town we don't

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or at least has spoken to a store manager about their offensive nature and the impossibility of avoiding them completely. If that thread was that offensive, Iwould think that some of those magazine covers would be VERY offensive.

We have and the folk here boycotted those stores and thats why we don't

m.t.hands · 09-17-2005, 05:17 PM

my deepest and most sincere apologies if i said anything that offended anyone, like chad mentioned earlier though i would be willing to say moose had a point to make, maybe a poor choice of examples, but a point none the less, i know a place i used to work at had certain people that would use what i call suggestive thinking, with a statement like "dosen't this look defective to you?", this would raise your suspicion of the item just buy the way it had been presented, if they had said check this out and tell me what you think, you opinion is not nearly asinfluenced....

just my take on it, ya'll have a wonderful afternoon, keith

Rebel Hog · 09-17-2005, 05:33 PM

Exactly Bro.Keith, Thank you!

LBR · 09-17-2005, 05:35 PM

Thought about it some more. Maybe this isn't the point Goose was trying to make, but it makes it just the same. People can be led like sheep,without them even realizing it. M.T. makes the point with the suggestive thinking--raise a doubt in someone's mind and you have swayed them. I'd even go as far as to say that tricking folks is a more sucessful way of getting them to follow than asking. I don't think for a minute that a sign asking folks politely would have been anywhere near as sucessfull as tricking them with the fly. As I said before, we know that there are "ministers" that are masters at this.

Chad

Leafrivermac · 09-17-2005, 06:48 PM

Just a thought tho . .I agree with you that many use trickery to achieve their purpose, and thats wrong, and down right evil if one is causing others to miss the mark. However there are those that are accused falsley of wrongful acts that are offering useful helps that cause those that follow to hit the mark.
Theres always more than one way to look at things, depending on your perspective.