I'd like to know what opinions are about what the difference is between arguing, debating, and defending a belief.
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"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28
Sister to me arguing is a disrespectful manner of exchanging opinions or insulting each other or each others beleifs. Debating is trying to prove the point someone else is making wrong in a respectful manner. Defending ones beleifs can be done in an argumentive manner or in a debated manner.
In reality there should be no reason to defend ones beliefs if there is no attack on ones beleifs. We should simply express what we believe and why. We are all adults here (for the most part) and should be able to understand that because someone states their beleifs and they happen to be ones we do not agree with does not mean they are attacking our beleifs or that they expect you to beleif the same thing. It simply means that is what theybelieve.
Here are4 examples, one bad,three good.
I believe XYZ because of verses CDF. (good)
Your belief in XYZ is totally wrong, because of verses BXF! (bad)
I don't beleive in XYZ, because of verses BXF. (Good, a simple expression of why you disagree without arrogance or disrespect of the other)
Well how do you feel about verses HYT? (Good, it is simply asking for some one to examine other scripture that may support your view with out being disrespectful of the others beliefs)
I do not understand why we can not discuss our faith without disrespecting others all the time. I have seen many threads here where the love of Christ shines so brightly, I have seen many threads where there has been very respectful discussions of differing beleifs. If we would all just take a moment and reread what we are ready to post and think about how others will view our post before we hit the "OK" button things would be so much better here.
Pretend that you are a lurker here that is leaning towards finding Christ before you post. Christ teaches love and if a lurker sees folks cutting each other to peices over their differing beleifs, will they not view us as a group of hypocrites professing the love of Christ as we stab each other?
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Proud father of a Devil Dog
In logic, "argument" means making a statement, and supporting it with proof. That's different from what most people consider "arguing" though.
Seems like, if some starts a post "I believe..." and someone else responds, "You're wrong because..." That pretty much sets the stage for am argument. These psts, IMHO, should not be control-alt-deleted as long as the argument doesn't get personal.
To start a thread, "So and so is wrong, and here's why..." well, I can see why we should ban those.
etothepi not trying to cause a stink, but saying "You're wrong because..." to me is saying "I know what is right and you don't", now I will concur that if some one stated that there were 45 books in the KJV Bible and someone said "You're wrong because..." that they would be wrong and called on it correctly because that is a hard cold fact and not ones opinion or interpatation of scripture.
I have no problem if someone says someone is wrong over something that is notopen to interpatation, but when it is open to interpatation it becomes ones opinion and not indiputable.
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Mrs.Lizzie,
In my Christian experience I really never never seen the reason to defend my belief. I think goin gto church supports Christianity and doing what we do here as well. I do know some who study and memorize scriptures to debate with others.I don't , My reason for Bible study is very selfish..to know God better and to overcome my fleshly nature.
When discussing scripture on here I try to stay away from controversy. Sometimes because of my pride I slip in. I'm working on tha tprsently and and trying to advoid that stuff. Have a great day Liz and Mac.
CHuck
etothepi not trying to cause a stink, but saying "You're wrong because..." to me is saying "I know what is right and you don't",
I don't disagree with you, Taz. I just think that as long as it doesn't get personal, such a conversation should be fair game here. I understand that is not what admin thinks, and I respect that.
The Gospel is of Prime importance. [align=left]Just before Jesus ascended into heaven, he gave his disciples clear instructions:[/align][blockquote]All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. (Mat 28:18-20)
Eph5:
[11] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
[12] For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
[13] But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. [/blockquote]
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