I'm not sure why I was blocked from posting in the oneness thread. I didn't think I said anything wrong. Did I?
To Goose, apology accepted. I didn't notice that you asked if the info was true or not. All I saw was the bold writing. Sorry! Also, no, we absolutely do not believe like the Jehovah's Witnesses.
__________________
"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28
Oh, great then, I respect you very much and appreciate the loving and kind things you bring to the board. You are a great person and we all should try to act more like you. I guess that's one of the differences between men and woman. Y'all are just better at peace than us! Thank you, and God Bless you.
Trae
Lizzie, you weren't blocked individually, the entire thread was locked due to it looking like it was about to take a serious dive. Due to the recent attitudes here, the moderation on this board is going to be stricter. There is a thread at the top of the board called "NAAR" that will explain some. That thread will be elaborated on when I get time to do it.
Chad
__________________
"We can have no '50-50' allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all."-- Theodore Roosevelt
A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left. Ecclesiasties 10:2
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats
Lizzie and Mac--you two should certainly know how much I care about you -- the hurricane had me getting my whole church and my entire address book involved in praying for you. I do have a question which I don't intend as an attack at all --I'm just trying to understand what it is you believe. That said, here it is:
I believe in One true God. I believe He is manifested in the 3 persons of the trinity -the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Do you believe that the Father is God? How about the Son? And the Holy Spirit? Are any of them NOT God to you?
Again, this isn't an attack -- just a quest to understand your point of view.
BTW--if this gets locked too, please send my your reply via e-mail. Thanks.
__________________
Today' s small bucks are tomorrow' s trophies.
[image]http://www.whitetails.com/deer8.html[image]
DaveH, first of all I want to thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers. We appreciate every single prayer that was sent up for us during the hurricane.
Next for your question:
I believe that there is only one God, not three. I believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not three distinct and separate persons, but just one God that manifests Himself (not themselves) in these different ways. The Bible does not say that Jesus is one-third of the Godhead, not that He is dwells in the Godhead, rather in Colossians it says that the fulness of the Godhead dwells in Him. I hope I don't confuse you with my explanation. Mac does a much better job at it. If you look at the old "Does the Trinity Exist?" thread you will see that both sides had some pretty deep explanations. If you really want to understand a little more of how we believe you can email Mac.
__________________
"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28
I believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are not three distinct and separate persons, but just one God that manifests Himself (not themselves) in these different ways.
If one believes in only one God, is it safe to assume the following to be true?
The Father is the Son.
The Son is also the Father.
The Holy Ghost is The Father.
The Holy Ghost is The Son.
The Father is The Son and also The Holy Ghost.
The Son is The Father, he is also The Holy Ghost.
The Holy Ghost is The Father and The Son.
Jesus is the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
The name of the Father is also the name of The Son and The Holy Ghost.
The one name of the above is the name of whom the whole family in heaven and earthare named.
The one name found above would be the one to call in baptism.
That there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby they may be saved.
That there is salvation in none other name.
The Father is the only savior.
The Son is the only Savior.
The Father is the Almighty.
The Son is the Almighty.
The Father is the only one who forgives sin.
The Son is the only one who forgives sin.
The Father is the only one who raises the dead.
The Son is the only one who raises the dead.
We could go on and on. Is this what is believed by the trinity believers? Is this what is believed by the oneness believers?
If we believe that God is one, why would the above not be in fact true and right? If it is not true and right, how then can belive differently without making God more than one God?
Is the above a oneness belief?
Is the above a trinity belief?
Is the above a bibical belief?
Lizzie and Mac--you two should certainly know how much I care about you -- the hurricane had me getting my whole church and my entire address book involved in praying for you. I do have a question which I don't intend as an attack at all --I'm just trying to understand what it is you believe. That said, here it is:
I believe in One true God. I believe He is manifested in the 3 persons of the trinity -the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Do you believe that the Father is God? How about the Son? And the Holy Spirit? Are any of them NOT God to you?
Again, this isn't an attack -- just a quest to understand your point of view.
BTW--if this gets locked too, please send my your reply via e-mail. Thanks.
Dave, I can feel your sincerity, and I know in my spirit that you offered up true prayers of concern for my family and myself at a time when it seemed that we needed them. I honestly feel that the Lord burdened you especially to pray for us. Thank you for obeying that burden.
I am an Apostolic Pentecostal (not a denomination, but a way of believing). I attend a United Pentecostal Church. The UPC and the Apostolic believe pretty much the same way in points of doctrine. I do not believe in three persons of God. I believe that Jesus was God in man. I believe that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus who is God. Further more I believe that we are commanded to be baptized in the name of Jesus and that we . .will . .recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Now . .outside of these things that I have mentioned there are no "off the wall " things that we do or believe in. We are like most any other Pentecostal Church you have attended except that we only see Jesus. When we speak of God . .we think Jesus . .when we think of the Holy Spirit . .we think Jesus. We dress a little different, . .our women don't show flesh and they don't cut their hair. They wear no makeup. Our men do not wear shorts or short sleeve shirts. We wear no jewelry.
These things are how we are different. Regardless of our differences, . .I know in my spirit that it was your very real burden for prayer that was heard in ther throne room that helped put a hedge around our home. So regardless of whether you are a trinitarian or no . . .that says a lot.
For the moment I'm not dealing with the trinity/ oneness question here as I am considering a thing or two first. I believe with every fiber of my being in the oneness of God so it's not that I'm having doubts . . .and I certainly havn't seen any questions that can't be answered . . .but rather feeling pretty much connived against and wondering if I should take that final leap out the door.
__________________ And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Bro Mac: I know what you mean. I made a reply to Goose today and simply ask him to explain the difference between tha trinity as taught in the New Testament and the developed Nicene doctrine. It stayed on the board for a couple of hours or so and guess what, it disappeared. Totally vanished. This was in reqards to his trinity question thread. I never even made a comment, just that question.
Reply to the Oneness thread
