Why do so many Christians think that someone can't be born gay?

[etothepii]

I've heard it a few times. Things like, "We're made in God's image, and he wasn't gay," or God wouldn't make imperfect creations," etc...

We live in a fallen world. People are born with all kinds of problems. Some people have to overcome a lot more hardships than others.

I'm not saying people are born gay either. In my unprofessional opinion, it seems to me that homosexuality is a mental problem. Like a cleptomaniac (sp?), a mental problem is the root of the sinful behavior. Yet the clepto can overcome it. Why does he have a tougher burden in life? I don't know. Is it really tougher, or do we all struggle with sin?

Think of people born with physical defects. Of course God allows that to happen. Why would mental defects be excluded? I can't see someone calling homosexuality a choice, based on religious grounds. maybe I'm missing something. I'm sure you all can fill me in!

[Rebel Hog]

Bro.Eto, take it from the Pro's.

Is Homosexuality a Choice?

It has been argued through the ages, long before science was ever involved, that homosexuality is merely a choice. Many people state that gays only have homosexual relations because they choose to do so. Others profess that homosexuality is not a choice and due to the societal stigma which is associated with homosexuality very few would consciously choose a homosexual lifestyle and the discrimination that accompanies it.
Some state that simply due to the genetic makeup of the human race it is very unlikely that homosexuality would be anything other than a choice. In An Analysis of Biological Theories of Causation, by Dr. Tahir I jaz, M.D., he states, "Of all animals, human beings are the most genetically indeterminate. In the words of Dr. Joseph Wortis, Department of Psychiatry, State University of New York: 'no complex high-level behavior of the human species can be reduced to genetic endowment, not language, not house building and not sexual behavior.' Preferential and exclusive homosexuality is not naturally found in any infrahuman mammalian species and it would be odd for such behavior in humans to be genetically determined." It is Dr. Tahir's opinion that homosexuality is completely a choice as it is not possible for it to be genetically determined. He further cites various accounts of leading psychologists and psychiatrists, such as Masters and Johnson, Dieber, Barnhouse, Socarides, Cappon, Hadden, Ribinstein and Leif, who have reported very high rates of success in curing individuals of their homosexual tendencies. Tahir does not believe that individuals could be helped if homosexuality were indeed genetic -- just as you would not be able to cure someone of his or her race or gender.

[Alex The Hawk]

WellI have never read a newspaper announcement that says today an 8 lbs Homosexual boy was borned to the Jones on Elm Street.

Science denies finding a mental cause for it, but we know that sexual desires come from a certain part of the brain that feels pleasure, also drug addicts use this part of the brain more often than others when they are under the influence of a drug.

The reason Homosexuality is view as a sin, is because it goes against God's first commandment and first purpose for creating mankind, He said to Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve, "Go forth and procreate the earth and fill it" That is very hard to do between two males or two females, so the very purpose of God's creationis in Violation when this is practice, so it is a sin against Nature. The very fact that only 8 to 10% of people practice such behavior tells you that it is not natural.

But some people today who have being brain washed into a liberal agenda are so confused they can't tell what is natural and not natural.

Shalom

[Charlie P]

I thought the first Commandment was to have no gods before him?

I've heard people say that if it wasn't a choice it would mean there is no god ,because God wouldn't do that to man.

[Rebel Hog]

ORIGINAL: Charlie P

I thought the first Commandment was to have no gods before him?

I've heard people say that if it wasn't a choice it would mean there is no god ,because God wouldn't do that to man.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Charlie are'nt they dying of Aid's?

[Leafrivermac]

I think man would like to find medical reasons to relieve them from their responsibility of sin. To say a poor ***** can't help himself, or a poor clepto can't help himself because they were born that way is crap. No one is born that way, they become that way by yielding their members to sin. Same thing with many other things, . . .one little step at a time . . .often seemingly unrelated little steps. . .lead us into bigger and bigger sins or depths thereof.

[Charlie P]

Charlie are'nt they dying of Aid's?

Are you saying that AIDS is Gods wrath?
RH, You eat seafood ,does your wife ever wear pants, don't have any tattoos do you?

I thought when then NT was written the laws in the old were discarded?

[Rebel Hog]

Charlie, you hit the nail on the head, when you said "I Thought".

[Charlie P]

So you go by all the laws in the OT then? When was your last sacrifice, you send your wife away for seven days at the proper time, if you have a son you circumcised him 8 days after he was born right?

If he became disobiedantyou let the elders in your village stone him to death.

[strut]

God is no respecter of persons, if he created homosexuals and his word teaches that they will be lost forever then he is a respecter of persons and that makes God a liar in which we know is not the case for God cannot lie.