This is discussed many times in the bible but is there ever a definition as to what is all included in being sexually immoral? After having Clinton in office it seems we have many different definitions of sex.
Matthew.5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
I've never seen anyone obey this verse. If so there would be alot of handi capped men walking around with no hands or eyes including me.
Chuck
Pike, I don't agree with alot of this, I think it's Wrong!!
What is "sexual immorality"
There are definite biblical restrictions on sexual acts which are broader called sexual immorality (Greek "porneia"). These are:
1) Sex during women's menstruation. Lack of hygiene for nomads in the desert (lack of clean water) could lead to dangerous infections -"unclean" in ENGLISH refers to filth/dirt/etc., but in Hebrew, it refers, as validly, to RITUAL impurity it was a "sin" (spiritual impurity) to do such.
2) Adultery which biblically was understood by the Hebrews to mean wrong for a married women to have sex with another man since violated her husbands property rights. A man could marry when he was age 12. It was never understood to be wrong for a married man since his wife had no such rights. The married man could have as many wives (as long as women was at least age 13) and concubines (breeders) as he wished as long as "other women" were not married (another man's property). Certainly there is nothing wrong with by agreement between man and wife, sharing sexually with others as in polyamory or swinging since no property of cheating issue. Nothing ever was wrong with singles sexuality. "Fornication" is a total mistranslation lie of Greek "porneia"
3)Sexual Idolatry as in using the temple prostitutes for pagan fertility goddess worship. Or, doing the same with the golden calf and having sex to praise it as a god when Moses came down. Porneia as used in I Cor 6-9, falsely translated in some bibles as fornication was actually the practice of the prostitutes in the Temples of Corinth selling their services as a part of pagan fertility goddess worship which was what Paul was warning against. Not even specifically about prostitution but used as a pagan sexual goddess worship.
Corinth was one of the sex capitals of the world. Corinth was even a Metaphor for Fertility. "Corinthian girl" meant prostitute, "to play the Corinthian" meant to visit a prostitution house. (see "Things They Never Told You In Sunday School: A Primer For The Christian Homosexual" by Rev. David Day, pg. 108)
The major deites at the time was Aphrodite, goddess of fertility, and Cybele, the Mother Goddess. The worshippers of Aphrodite worked as prostitutes in the temples.... these temples held over one thousand prostitutes. The purpose of these prostitutes was to earn money for the temple and to worship Aphrodite (they used sex as worship). So over 1,000 prostitutes were cultic, and that's just from the worshippers of Aphrodite
Nothing in the bible ever said there was anything wrong with non-goddess "common" prostitution which was common and often mentioned with nothing negative about it. Tel Aviv Today is the brothel capital of the world since prostitution just isn't a biblical issue for Jews and its legal in Israel as it is in almost all the world outside the U.S.
4) Pederasty - one of the worst of all sexual sins that took various forms: The practice of pederasty falls into three distinct styles. First is the relationship between an older man and a young boy. Second is the practice of slave prostitutes. Third is that of the effeminate "call boy" or male prostitute. Other practices included a heterosexual male degrading another heterosexual male by anal intercourse after capturing them in battle. Another practice was heterosexual's using anal intercourse to drive out other heterosexual strangers they didn't like such as the case of the Sodom story. It had absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality which is simply being as God designed some people to be.
Beyond these 4 there is no biblical basis for any other definition of porneia, or sexual immorality.
Christ taught in the Sermon on the Mount that the only law is the law of love. He demonstrated this by reversing four of the OT laws which conflicted with loving people. Therefore anything that was hurtful, not by mutual consent etc. would be immoral for a Christian, but obviously not loving sexuality regardless of marital status or natural sexual orientation.
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But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.Matthew 5:28(NIV)
Even looking at a woman lustfully is the same in God's eyes as committing adultery! In other words, pornography is wrong, no question.
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Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Should I therefore take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! Do you not know that whoever is united to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For it is said, "The two shall be one flesh." But anyone united to the Lord becomes one spirit with him.1 Corinthians 6:15-17(NRSV)
When a person commits adultery, they become "one flesh" with the person they sleep with. Your body is a "member of Christ," a temple of the Holy Spirit. Sexual sins are thus all the more terrible in that they are sins directly against the body of Christ and against the Holy Spirit.
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Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
There's alot of scriptures here for this topic. I thought I'd add one more. I think it is established that anything sexual, if not being done in the confines of marriage is sin. 1 Thessalonians 4:2-8 "For you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you."
Trae
Goose ,
I do believe this would be a more relevant topic for us men in 2005 rather than snakes. Sexual sinsis a serious temptation for many of us and this is an area that we all need exhortation in. We all know the verses ,howerver we need to be reminded I'm sure. What would be nice to know is how some of you are over coming this temptation.
Chuck
I am presently reading alot of the word daily, praying daily ,have no TV and still am dealing withthis issue. It truly does war against our souls. I had a mom ask me point blank yesterday to have sex. Of course I said no. Satan does not give up.
Chuck
I am presently reading alot of the word daily, praying daily ,have no TV and still am dealing withthis issue. It truly does war against our souls. I had a mom ask me point blank yesterday to have sex. Of course I said no. Satan does not give up.
Chuck
sometimes it isn't Satan... it's our own nature running amuck.....
Chuck,
I think you need to get out of Florida!!! Those girls are crazy!!! I moved to Alabama and although it is still here, I don't have to be around it so much. The first thing I noticed here was the way the ladies dressed. They are actually modest for the most part! I think to overcome the temptation to lust will never be completely achieved. But to learn to deal with the temptation and overcome the actual sin of lust is possible! Some of my ideas are exactly what you said, about staying in the word, not watching T.V., esp. not going to the movies! Remember James told us the biography of temptation and sin: James 1:13-15 Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God," for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one. But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.
So we can try to "cut it off at the pass" so to speak.Spending time with my wife and daughter is a great way to keep my mind on spiritual things, I have basically built a wall around myself and my family, (Actually God has built the wall of protection for me!)I guess all I do is stay behind it and trust in God. It is tough to be "in the world and not of the world!"
Trae