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Old 07-27-2005, 04:55 PM   #1
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Dear Moose?
I will shorten your question. Why don"t Pentecostalswho speak in tongues not handle snakes ? I said I would answer this honestly.
This has to be an opinion answer ,but I will answer it to the best of my ability . We would consider this tempting God. I checked this verse out and all agree that handling snakes would be tempting God. Satan tried that with Jesus by quoting Psalm 91 ." If you throw yourself down from the pinnacle of the temple .God 's word says," He will rescue you so you won"t even bump your foot on a stone." In summary"Christians don"t handle snakes because we are "Not to put the Lord thy God to the test."

You may say well,they speak in tongues because they are the easiest to fake. Moose ; they speak in tongues in either of two different ways.

1. A genuine experience of God over takes them and the Lord really does cause them to speak in tongues. I believe this is a rare occasion. Very rare; but it happens.

2. What you see mostly in churches are Christians in FAITH yielding themselves and are lost in his love. They inFAITH pray syllables. Key word"in Faith. I don"t see where they are hurting anyone. If it bothers someone"don"t go to their service. I believe it is praying in the spirit.
Jude1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Since it only edifys the one praying and since it can be controlled I believe it should be done in the privacy of yourprayer closet.

There I answered ya.
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Old 07-27-2005, 05:01 PM   #2
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Sincere questions will be answered. People who answer back rudely will be prayed for.
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Old 07-27-2005, 07:28 PM   #3
 
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Ol buddy chuck,

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This is not my question

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Would someone please tell me why you think youcan speak in tongues yet you will not take up serpents or drink anything deadly when its all right there in the same passage?

This is my question, I am talking to anyone who says they speak in tongues.

Chuck now I know you are a great guy! You are a man that loves others and God. However you are not God and I'm not saying you said you were. The point is You didn't use any of Gods word to refute the question. You said "This has to be an opinion answer " well I don't want your opinion I want Gods Word! Answer the question with the Word. We will not be Judged by chuck's words or any other mans words,John 12:48 says, He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him"the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

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Why? It says "these signs will follow those who believe" if you believe shouldn't you be able to do all of the signs? Yes,at the time these signs were used to teach those lost all these were used! Thats what the signs were used for was to teach! John 20:30-31 says, And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.Written not still done! The Bible is clear on the issue yet many want to do there "own thing " some just can't do what God has asked. People want to be entertained rather than follow the teachings of Christ. Matthew 12:38-39 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

I have one last question for you, would you believe everything I have tried to teach you from Gods word if I produced for you a man who has returned from the dead and will testify to you that everything I have said to you is the truth?





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Old 07-27-2005, 07:47 PM   #4
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Moose, I am not going to argue like Chuck said, I just have one Scripture to quote. 1st Cor. 39 Threfore, brethren desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues...
If tongues died out with the Apostles, so did healings, propheys, the word of knowledge, word of wisdom, working of miracles discerning of spirits.... and What about Salvation? We can just throw out that page we do not agree with, pretty soon we would wind up with the first and the last page. Don't be like the Mormons that say, it's how you interpret that Scripture
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1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

I have one last question for you, would you believe everything I have tried to teach you from Gods word if I produced for you a man who has returned from the dead and will testify to you that everything I have said to you is the truth?



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Old 07-27-2005, 07:59 PM   #6
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Sure, I have a friend of mine that died as well, he went to hell,Jesus cameand led him by the handinto heaven, he speaks in tongues more than all of us.....This I know is true... He still has the scars on his hands where the electricity hit him, he still has the scars on his feet where it came out and blew off his laced boots. 25,000volts from a primary highline. Hewasdead for over tweny minutes... He wasn't saved when this happened, he's now a Pentecostal. But wait! Most people wouldn't believe that either... I am finished with this conversation,it's getting no where... I know what I do is right, and I don't have to answser to anyone butmy Lord...You have your convictions, and so do I. Tongues are not going to get anyone into heaven, just make you feel like you are there while you are caught up in the Spirit.
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Moose, I am not going to argue like Chuck said, I just have one Scripture to quote. 1st Cor. 39 Threfore, brethren desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues...
If tongues died out with the Apostles, so did healings, propheys, the word of knowledge, word of wisdom, working of miracles discerning of spirits.... and What about Salvation? We can just throw out that page we do not agree with, pretty soon we would wind up with the first and the last page. Don't be like the Mormons that say, it's how you interpret that Scripture
thats good I don't want to argue either! However "that which is perfect" has come. You guys are saying we have both signs/miracles and the perfect word of God. We don't have both! We have the Bible now, we don't need those signs anymore to teach those lost.1 Cor 13:8-10 says,Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. the knowledge here ismiraculous knowledge, we know we have knowledge today this means like the Apostles not having to study to persent a lesson we know God doesn't tell preachers what to say yettheyare guided through the Bible the perfect word of God that has come.

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The moose is loose! LOL!

"You shouldn't test God."

Yes, this is the common lame excuse. Whatever, it is a guarantee and you should not test it? Well then why is it written in his holy book and attributed to none other than Jesus? As a joke? Moreover, it wouldn"t be faith anymore.

However, Moose75, you have a problem too. Do these Christians head off to Hell?

21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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Brother, we are not at that time where all things are perfect, if so we are in heaven...The perfect time has not come yet....We are about to have the war that ends all wars, now is the time for every spiritual weapon we can get... ,,,,, (Truce)...You see it your way, and I see it my way.. gotta get some rest, I am old and work tooooo hard. Love ya man.
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Sure, I have a friend of mine that died as well, he went to hell,Jesus cameand led him by the handinto heaven, he speaks in tongues more than all of us.....This I know is true... He still has the scars on his hands where the electricity hit him, he still has the scars on his feet where it came out and blew off his laced boots. 25,000volts from a primary highline. Hewasdead for over tweny minutes... He wasn't saved when this happened, he's now a Pentecostal. But wait! Most people wouldn't believe that either... I am finished with this conversation,it's getting no where... I know what I do is right, and I don't have to answser to anyone butmy Lord...You have your convictions, and so do I. Tongues are not going to get anyone into heaven, just make you feel like you are there while you are caught up in the Spirit.
Ignorance is bliss. Acts 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,
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