The speaker for the mormons say's these verses Establishes Nothing.
How many agree with him?
Proverb 30:5-6 (KJV)Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Revelation 22:18 (KJV)For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Revelation 22:19 (KJV)And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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Proverb 30:5-6 (KJV) Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
I believe Reb that adding to God's word was part of Eve's transgression. It's a dangerous thing to add to Gods word.
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Bro. Reb.... Your right, how can you argue with scripture. Each time when confronting that dangerous cult, and I use the Bible, they alway say, "its how you interpret the Bible.... However they really use the Book of Mormon and their D. & C.... But I would like to add a verse that I believe should be read with the "Prophet Joseph Smith" in mind.
Matthew 24:11 Then many false prophets will rise and deceive many....
Amen! the Bible is right from cover to cover..there are no errors or contradictions in thus saith the Lord, only in man's interpretation.. there have been many men, lawyers, historians and fools who have tried to prove it wrong but all have failed..the bible says in Matt. 24:35--"Heaven and earth shall pass away but my Word will never pass away."
"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." Deut.4:2 KJV.
"What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.' Deut 12:32
"Add thou not unto his Words lest He reprove thee, and thou be found a liar." Proverbs 30:6
God don't want you changing what He told us..anyone who willfully distorts or changes the message of the biblein my humble opinionis not a Christian according to the scripures..
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Everything that has been posted in rebuttal the innerrancy of Scripture in errent! Every word is true and can be trusted.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
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Easy here brother. I"™m just speaking for myself, not necessarily All "śMormons."ť Hope I didn"™t wrangle your hide too much.
You stated: "śThe speaker for the mormons say's these verses Establishes Nothing. How many agree with him?"ť
Porter: I think you need to qualify what I said. I said that in the biblical inerrancy post is appears the scriptures in 2 Timothy appears to used to be all inclusive for all scripture and smacks of semblances of sola scriptura (Not only everything in Christian doctrine must be derived from scripture) but just thins one verse almost seems to to apply as a "śmini sola scriptura."ť In other words, what Paul was speaking to one individual (Timothy) about the Old testament law and scrptures as Timothy had known and received it. (The law of Moses he had followed since he was a child) is now turned into an all inclusive verse that canonizes not only Paul"™s statement to Timothy, but somehow this one verse applicable to one person, in one situation now becomes ALL inclusive of ALL the additional books and verses of scripture theferafter. I don"™t think so. That was the ALL part.
As to the scriptures you quoted. Did you quote them in reference to NOTHING can be added to the Bible or to Gods word? Most people do try and level the accusation against latter-day Saints of NOTHING can be added to or taken away from the bible. I have already demonstrated that if this was your proposition by using these verses for that purpose, the statements made by John are clearly used in a different context. That is the context I assumed you were quoting the words of John in the Book of Revelation? Did I assume incorrectly? If I did, forgive me and correct my thinking.
I also assumed that maybe you were throwing Proverbs in as well to lump with the NOTHING ADDED argument with Revelation. I imagine I may have assumed more than necessary on this one. That is what I meant that those particular scriptures establishes NOTHING in defense of sola scriptura or the need or not for additional scripture. Sorry if I didn"™t make myself clear before. I could see how it may be a bit confusing. I hope this helps to clarify.
God Bless,
Porter.
Ps. In a less controversial vein, how many hogs have you shot with the that sweet Redhawk of yours? I am planning on using Hornady 300 XTP ammo (good expansion). What do you think? I"™m also planning on packing a speedloader with Corbon 305 or some Garrett 310 or 330 Hammerheadsin case one of those bad boys gets too close. What have you used? I"™ve tested both the XTP's and the Corbons in my SuperRedhawk the last two weeks (Hammerheads are very pricey, but worth it in Big Bear country). Both loads seem to be manageable. The Corbons definitely kick a bit more, but with the massive SR frame it handles the recoil quite well.
Thanks in advance for the info.-Porter.
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Porter, you did'nt make the statement, it was your partner.
I have taken a few with the Ruger just to try it out, but I use dogs
to hunt hogs and any gun will do at real close range. I purchased
the Ruger Super for side arm protection out west and a BLR .358.
In Fl my choice for hogs is .35cal.
Your choices are good on ammo. Fl huntingis alot different than
out west. It is dense and swampy.
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Jesus said, "he who stands firm to the end will be saved" Mark 13:13.
Live Life in such a way that those who do not know Christ will come to know Him because they know you
Sorry I butted in on a post intended for Mahonri. Thanks for the info on the ammo. I don't mean to Hijack the thread so if you feel the desire, pm me or give a quick reply here let me know how the Hunts went out here in the West. Elk? Mulies? Antelope? I wouln't mind getting one of those Oseolas (Spelling?) in your neck of the woods. What I'd really like sometime in the future is to nail one of your gators and make a pair of boots out of him. I'm primarily a meat hunter, but I don't think the Lord would mind if I had a pair of croc or alligator boots. I may be able to convince my in-laws to help me get a tag in Texas. I ran into a few while playing golf down there last year. I'm sure you see em' around.
God Bless,
Porter.
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"The Lord commands us to be peacemakers. This is more than peace keeping. Peacemaking is an active thing that requires much greater effort at making peace happen rather than just keeping ones peace."