What Do YOU believe?????

mr-pirk · 06-22-2005, 08:39 PM

I have been pondering this for sometime now.

I feel this is important.

Do you believe mankind evolved from a common ancestor to the ape or any other animal?

Do you believe in a special creation of mankind yet you can accept that perhaps God used some sort of evolution in the rest of his creation?

Can you honestly say you accept God's word and still accept evolution for man?

Can you honestly say you are a believer and still accept that man evolved from an earlier animal?

I say NO to the above two questions.

I say to accept evolution for mankind is to deny what God say's took place in the Garden of Eden. I don't see any other way around it. Do you?

If you try and simply accept the Garden of Eden as ametaphor as some do with Genesis' explantion of the creation process then I seeNO way that you are NOT calling God a liar.

God in both the Old Testament and the New Testament uses the events in the Garden of Eden as the crux of all else that has and is to occur. There are no two ways around it that I know of.

How does one accept that Adam was a real person and the Bible explains what he did and what had to be done to correct things and still accept evolution of mankind?

Can you teach your children to accept evolution of mankind and still NOT call God a Liar?

Personaly I can read the Bible without making any asumptions and see a sliver of a way of making it fit evolution for animals but NOT mankind.

There is NO way I can make mankind fit into the theroy of evolution and still Not call God a Liar.

Thanks for any enlightenment on this as it has been bothering me deeply for quite sometime.

Thanks
Mr-Pirk

LBR · 06-22-2005, 09:05 PM

I really never put that much thought into it--God said it, I believe it, that settles it. I know God can do anything, and when He said that He made the heavens and earth and everything in them in six days, I have no problem believing that.

Science has made some great strides, and will continue to do so, but theories are just that--theories--and I wouldn't bet any money, much less my soul, on them being correct.

Even with all the information relayed on this board amongst the debates, if nothing else gets settled there is at leastone thing that remains crystal clear--regardless of which "side" you are on, or whether you choose to believe in scientific theories or God's word, both require a tremendous amount of faith.

No offense to those that try to straddle the fence, and believe in God but also want to believe in evolution, well.....the Bible tells us we can't serve both God and man, and to me that's what you are trying to do. So what if it's not scientifically feasable for the earth to have been created in 6 days. It's not scientifically feasable for Christ to have performed miracles either, for men to have spoken in tongues, for the dead to have been brought back to life, etc.--but it happened. As far as that goes, unless someone has re-written the laws of physics, it's not scientifically possible for a bumblebee to fly--try telling the bee that though.

My advice is don't worry yourself over it--take God's word for what it is.

Chad

mr-pirk · 06-22-2005, 09:32 PM

Thanks for the reply LBR. This is important to me and I thank you for your help.

Thanks
Mr-Pirk

Snooky · 06-22-2005, 09:50 PM

God said it-that settles it!! If we believe it or not, it want change a thing!

bearmaster · 06-23-2005, 12:06 AM

I do not believe in human evolution, as in macro. I do believe in micro evolution.
I do not believe we all come from a single man. I believe

I wouldn't call any God a liar, however, I do not believe every thing I read.I have read the bible yet I do not have faith in the MEN who wrote it. I do know how Christianity has Evolved greatly over the centuries whether it is getting better is yet to be seen (personal observance).

Chuck7 · 06-23-2005, 05:07 AM

This here teacher does not teach evolution. I actually teach them to be critical on statements from text books that say," 600 Millions of years ago." I now look at my students and they say yeah right.

Folks Adam was the first man created. His creation was around 4004 BC. So go figure.
Evolution or statements made in text books like I had just said are out to cause humans to doubt the Word of God. Just another one of the Master of Deception 's plans.
Set free by HIs grace,
Chuck
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Leafrivermac · 06-23-2005, 05:09 AM

Mr. Pirk, I believe the bible. The creation account is an area that in the past I have just had to choose to believe. I certainly have most all of my life believed that God had the power to speak into existance.

Tazman · 06-23-2005, 05:11 AM

An interesting note, scientist have proven that there actually was an Eve! I can not remember the exact name of the type of DNA I beleive michocondral that is only passed from the mother to every child of hers, well there is a section of this DNA string that is common to every human on the planet and is also common to every homo sapian in the past where they have been able to draw and test DNA from the bones or teeth. The scientist said it was sad that there was not a similar DNA string in men that was passed to all his offspring because if there was they could possibly prove there was and Adam also.

Leafrivermac · 06-23-2005, 05:59 AM

I read something to that effect somewhere Taz. I think that if there was a first woman proven by DNA, then it wouldn't be too unscientific to logicallycome to the conclusionthat there had to have been a first man thru relative thinking.

Rebel Hog · 06-23-2005, 08:04 AM

Bro.Pirk, I totally beleive in the Bible. I also believe in Micro
evolution and not in Macro evolution.