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Old 06-15-2005, 11:36 PM   #1
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Default John 8:21-30 If you knew Me!!!

21Then Jesus said to them again, "I am going away, and you will seek Me, and will die in your sin. Where I go you cannot come."
22So the Jews said, "Will He kill Himself, because He says, "Where I go you cannot come'?" This is an important point! The "Lost" or the people who live and die "in sin" separated from God, will not have any hope of heaven. Jesus said they "can not come" In 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 it says, "7and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power," Jesus won't be returning to make exceptions or to change the truth for any one. He is no respector of persons, and expects all people to accept the truth and repent,2 Peter 3:9 says, "9The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us,[a] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
23And He said to them, "You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; The oppisite of dying "in sin" is to die "in Christ" it is only"in Christ" that we find any spiritual blessings! (Ephesians 1:3) for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." Jesus is the Promised One, the Lamb of God, the Messiah, the Christ!!!
25Then they said to Him, "Who are You?"
And Jesus said to them, "Just what I have been saying to you from the beginning. 26I have many things to say and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I heard from Him."
27They did not understand that He spoke to them of the Father.
28Then Jesus said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, (I couldn't help but think of the centurion at the foot of the cross, he said "truly this man was the Son of God!") and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things. 29And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him." 30As He spoke these words, many believed in Him. Even while He is surrounded by those who DO NOT believe, there are some here that do believe! That seed fell on the "good soil" and took root! Jesus is really teaching boldly here and we should take note the offensive manner with which He addresses these un-believers, the truth must be spoken in love, but it cannot be "watered-down" or so soft that it has no effect! Jesus is blunt. And some there needed that bluntness, cause they then believed! Praise God!
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:23 AM   #2
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Goose,
Thanks for the message. Anothe rgreat job.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:31 AM   #3
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:03 AM   #4
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Goose,
Sometimes it's hard to know when to be rough and when to be gentle. I've used both before. If there is ever a doubt though I would suggest to walk in love. Yesterday I had to edit a couple post because I had doubt in my heart. I made up a sticky and put it on my computer to help me in the future. My sticky reads...
STAY W/ LOVE Love never fails. Words are powerful and when it's said it's done. I posted a post yesterday about the Nuts and Bolts of walking in the Spirit. I realized I was talking too much about myself so I deleted it. Then I saw those cute little smiley faces and thought hey sometimes walking in the Spirit is like that. There are trials and good times and those faces show that.Then I thought well some may think I'm making a mockery out of it so I deleted that. My sticky on my computer will help guide me in the future...
If ever in doubt..STAY W/ LOVE.
People can be easily offended .
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:00 AM   #5
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If ever in doubt..STAY W/ LOVE.
Absolutely Chuck! That is something I really need to remember, I'm gonna put that sign on my screen too! I am a blunt and kinda harsh person, (except when dealing with kids, then I'm alot more soft and caring) my wife is really helping me become more personal and excepting. I don't know if I ever told ya'll thatI was a football coach at one point, I fit that mold pretty good. I like to yell and rant and rave and tell folks off and then cheer andshout and get happy!Anyway, thanks for the kind words to you and Taz, I'm looking forward to the nextpart of the chapter!
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:46 AM   #6
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Good post. Lots of truth given here Goose. Good job.
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